Powers & Abilities Both Nika and Imu don’t have Black Blades

[ImmaIvanoM]

And both Nika and Imu are shown being capable of summoning objects

Imu summons weapons from his spell book and Luffy summons goggles and a baseball hat

Imu’s glaive is clearly not on his person when he appears in Castle so we can assume he summoned it as being same way he did the shot gun and Dagger from before

Nika is shown with a spear and a sword and shield and it’s very likely he too just summons them from thin air like he did those goggles and Baseball hat

So it’s safe to say both Nika and Imu’s weapons more or less vanish from existence if they arent summoned.

whatever the process of making black blades, it’s clearly not something that can be done in the course of a singular fight hence why Nika’s spear and sword aren’t black and Imu’s dagger and Glaive aren’t black either. These weapons cease to exist after each fight.

 

[Dickie D. Dick]

Zboys are in shambles.
They can claim that Black blade don't mean anything or admit that Ryokugyu is HIM, but they can't do both.
It's over for ZoLo, again.

 

[shastar-sei]

I agree with the idea that blades conjured from Nika's fantasy powers are incapable of being forged black. But besides their potential lack of a long battle history, I think they would also lack the personality and soul that real blades possess.

Imu's blade is far less generic-looking than what Nika conjures, though. It might be an actual Meito, or a blade lost to history.

 

[kekaro]

This makes no sense, and you kinda debunked your own reasoning

We see Imu, in a weaker form, able to conjure weapons at will and at ease.

Why would he teleport to elbaf, while coughing up blood mind you, with a weapon already in hand, if it would be a generic weapon he has no attachment to or can just pull out of thin air?

its clear thats a personal weapon he values and fights with as his main weapon, like enel with his rod @Fujishiro

As far as nika goes we know not enough

 

[Fujishiro]

Mihawk upscale.

 

[kekaro]

Mihawk upscale.

real, the guy in your sig about to get negged by HIM

 

[comrade]

No one wants to talk about this btw:

 

[Welkin]

They don’t have black blades because it’s clearly not something that can be done with raw power/haki

It’s likely a combination of haki, skill, willpower, and countless battles. In Wano emphasis was placed on Ryuma forging Shusui black after numerous fights

My theory has always been that it’s directly tied to accomplishing your goal or achieving your dream. Strength is involved obviously but it isn’t just that

I think your dream is the X factor

 

[kekaro]

No one wants to talk about this btw:

Natty gains

 

[Nadel]

And both Nika and Imu are shown being capable of summoning objects

Imu summons weapons from his spell book and Luffy summons goggles and a baseball hat

Imu’s glaive is clearly not on his person when he appears in Castle so we can assume he summoned it as being same way he did the shot gun and Dagger from before

Nika is shown with a spear and a sword and shield and it’s very likely he too just summons them from thin air like he did those goggles and Baseball hat

So it’s safe to say both Nika and Imu’s weapons more or less vanish from existence if they arent summoned.

whatever the process of making black blades, it’s clearly not something that can be done in the course of a singular fight hence why Nika’s spear and sword aren’t black and Imu’s dagger and Glaive aren’t black either. These weapons cease to exist after each fight.

Black swords are very powerful...For that, you need to be very strong

 

[CbShadow]

Zboys are in shambles.
They can claim that Black blade don't mean anything or admit that Ryokugyu is HIM, but they can't do both.
It's over for ZoLo, again.

How?

Nika and Imu are df merchants. They are what people claimed Shanks was for years. Characters with power and ability beyond weapon strength/skills.

 

[CbShadow]

No one wants to talk about this btw:

Nobody wants to talk about his swords.

Are those weapons real steel silver swords or just biscuits?

Answer: biscuit

 

[Dickie D. Dick]

How?

Nika and Imu are df merchants. They are what claim Shanks is. Characters with power and ability beyond weapon strength/skills.

They are stronger than ZoLo will ever be and don't have Black blade.
Does it mean Black blade aren't the most important for strength? Or they are and ZoLo will become that strong? (delusional position)
If you believe Black blade are evidence of supreme strength, does it mean you accept Ryokugyu is HIM? Even though Zboys hate Ryokugyu for what he did to Alber?

Zboys have to decide what more important to them Black blades or hating Ryokugyu

 

[CbShadow]

They are stronger than ZoLo will ever be and don't have Black blade.
Does it mean Black blade aren't the most important for strength? Or they are and ZoLo will become that strong? (delusional position)
If you believe Black blade are evidence of supreme strength, does it mean you accept Ryokugyu is HIM? Even though Zboys hate Ryokugyu for what he did to Alber?

Zboys have to decide what more important to them Black blades or hating Ryokugyu

As I've already told you, Imu and Nika have showed ability and fighting strength beyond weapon use. You can't say the same about Shanks, Rogers, Rocks and more.

There isn't a scene in the manga stating Ryokugyu weapon is a black blade? Oda did that for Mihawk and Ryuma's black blade. That shows a pattern. Since Ryokugyu weapon didn't follow that pattern you don't know if it's a black blade. Currently we don't have any facts supporting it's a black blade.

Claiming it's a black blade by it looks isn't enough when Cracker biscuit swords exist. They are look like real steel silver swords but they're not. You don't know if his weapon is really a wooden sword.

 

[comrade]

There isn't a scene in the manga stating Ryokugyu weapon is a black blade? Oda did that for Mihawk and Ryuma's black blade. That shows a pattern.

Ryuma's blade wasn't called black blade upon introduction. Ryuma didn't comment on it, Brook didn't comment on it, Zoro didn't mention it during their fight. Only later, when Zoro was using it itself, he called it black blade when referring to its characteristics of being so hard it wouldn't bend even if a dinosaur stepped on it.

Greenbull's blade doesn't need to be called black blade. We all have eyes. We have a thin blade piercing Greenbull's pants with a black edge and white, hamon-like pattern in the middle. Pointing out how it wasn't specifically labelled black blade or assuming it's just a replica like Cracker's biscuit blades has to be the biggest cope.

 

[kekaro]

Ryuma's blade wasn't called black blade upon introduction. Ryuma didn't comment on it, Brook didn't comment on it, Zoro didn't mention it during their fight. Only later, when Zoro was using it itself, he called it black blade when referring to its characteristics of being so hard it wouldn't bend even if a dinosaur stepped on it.

Greenbull's blade doesn't need to be called black blade. We all have eyes. We have a thin blade piercing Greenbull's pants with a black edge and white, hamon-like pattern in the middle. Pointing out how it wasn't specifically labelled black blade or assuming it's just a replica like Cracker's biscuit blades has to be the biggest cope.

Also while it can be a wood blade if oda decides so, we already seen wooden blades multiple times in one piece and they aint looking like that the slightest from coloring

Nor does Greenbulls wood btw.

 

[nik87]

I don't think it has anything to do with blades being summoned or not... If they were capable of forging Kokutos they would be summoning Kokutos.
As always, they are simply not strong enough...
Mihawk and Zoro being the #1 of the universe was never a joke, scholars simply cant see the forest from the trees.

 

[MonochromeYoru]

kokuto agenda could not be more dead-er

 

[MonochromeYoru]

How?

Nika and Imu are df merchants. They are what people claimed Shanks was for years. Characters with power and ability beyond weapon strength/skills.

imu and soyboy have by far the strongest coc shown in the manga

so them not having kokuto just kills yall's cope that kokuto = best coc

 

[kekaro]

imu and soyboy have by far the strongest coc shown in the manga

so them not having kokuto just kills yall's cope that kokuto = best coc

Wrong monochrome chan
Oda texted me, his editor
For the final battle of the battle of the manga, Wihawk will teleport to even a bigger island with a even haki pillar summoning technique, while everyone will clap
Your argument?
debunked