Powers & Abilities Both Nika and Imu don’t have Black Blades

#64
How many tiers is kaido above kiku ? Still got snuck by her.
If youre not expecting it youre not expecting it.
Kiku jumped 1 guy with a dozens guys
You litterarly comparing the opposite reaction
But no matter, the same applies here what i told regarding imus weapon:
I dont feel strongly about this point, i for one am excited to see marcus mars big haki :sanmoji:
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
#65
Kiku jumped 1 guy with a dozens guys
You litterarly comparing the opposite reaction
But no matter, the same applies here what i told regarding imus weapon:
I dont feel strongly about this point, i for one am excited to see marcus mars big haki :sanmoji:
Weve seen warcurys haki and it was massive.
 
#70
Not in the manga of one piece he didnt
This is the manga of one piece



Btw there’s nothing stopping this Glaive weapon Imu is using from being a common weapon he always uses since the ancient kingdom

my point is that once every fight is done, he de-summons it from existence and then re-summons it again into existence when he gets into such fights.

get it? It’s can be a weapon Imu always uses but it simply doesn’t exist until he summons it
 
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#75
put a sword in imu's hands. is he wss?
Oda chose not to put a sword in Imu’s hands so that Imu doesn’t interfere in Zoro’s dream

Oda chose to put a sword in Shanks in hands in chapter 1, introduce Zoro and his dream in chapter 4, introduce Mihawk in chapter 50 and then reveal that Mihawk no longer sees Shanks as w fighting in chapter 96.

Oda chose all the above events intentionally and 1100 chapters later, Zoro still thinks Mihawk is the strongest swordsman in the world.

Zoro knows Shanks is a swordsman. Zoro has fought Fujitora, an admiral swordsman. Zoro has fought S-hawk a Mihawk clone with extra powers. Zoro has fought Big mom, a Yonko swordsman. Zoro has fought Nusjuro a demonic Gorosei swordsman.

Zoro has fought and/or is aware of all the above top tier swordsmen and after 1100 chapters Zoro believes Mihawk is the strongest swordsman Alive across the entire surface of the One piece planet

maybe Zoro is wrong, but then you have to account for the massive story implications of Zoro being wrong such as Zoro isn’t going to fight Shanks, ever.
 

RayanOO

Lazy is the way
#76
And both Nika and Imu are shown being capable of summoning objects

Imu summons weapons from his spell book and Luffy summons goggles and a baseball hat

Imu’s glaive is clearly not on his person when he appears in Castle so we can assume he summoned it as being same way he did the shot gun and Dagger from before

Nika is shown with a spear and a sword and shield and it’s very likely he too just summons them from thin air like he did those goggles and Baseball hat

So it’s safe to say both Nika and Imu’s weapons more or less vanish from existence if they arent summoned.

whatever the process of making black blades, it’s clearly not something that can be done in the course of a singular fight hence why Nika’s spear and sword aren’t black and Imu’s dagger and Glaive aren’t black either. These weapons cease to exist after each fight.
I can agree for Nika

but for Imu the weird pole arm seems to be a specific weapon and not something random
 

RayanOO

Lazy is the way
#78
I posted Imu’s summoned shotgun in the thread. It also has a unique designZ doesn’t mean it’s not summoned
Here it’s Imu intro page, and he has a special / never seen before pole arm with a special designed blade

the man is clearly drawn with his fav weapon / weapon of choice

I can see Imu switching from time to time given his unique ability but I can also see him fighting most of the time with that pole arm when it’s really serious
 
#79
Oda didn't wait long for us to know Mihawk and Ryuma's swords are black blades. Clearly he wants his readers to know when characters have black blades. Why all of a sudden change it? Nobody can provide me with a logical explanation why we're having to now wait over 100 chapters. It's because it's not a black blade.
We did plenty of times. As said a thousand times:

1) Black blades are called as such only after they are used, not before, so still trying to sell that "no, don't stop at something that looks exactly like a BB with no hint to be anything different", not only is it baseless, but it's even disproven.
This type of argument may have some space when Aramaki uses his blade, and nothing is said about it.

2) As said thousands of times in these 4 years, Aramaki is based on someone, called btw Aramaki too even, who basically kept his sword skills secret. That's why, for the 10.001 time, for Aramaki Oda went for the speculation route and didn't outright have him use the blade.


Now going by manga facts is cope?
Yeah, trying to say we shouldn't use our eyes and call a black blade... a black blade because a completely unrelated character made a copy of a super normal, standard white blade is cope.
By this standard, what proof do we have that Shanks' sword isn't in fact only a very convincing replica, just a cracker's lol? or Imu just the same?

BTW, anyway, no: Oda did draw Cracker's armour with a fake sword, but only because Cracker, in his true body, had the original sword in his possession. Craker had the real Pretzel, which he used on screen.



You want to theorise the same for Aramaki, even though there are no hints? Cool, then what we saw was a replica and Aramaki still possesses the real, totally equivalent Black blade.
 
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#80
There is no confirmation that Aramaki has a black blade just because his sword was colored in black

Obviously Broggy didn't have a black blade when his axe was turned black



Until it is outright stated to be a black blade, treating it as a black blade is just headcanon
Yes, since it is a black/white manga, a dark shade is not necessarily a black color. So the colored version of DR Brogy's axe might not even be black. And Brogy is a special case because he underwent demonification, so his axe is supernatural.

Greenbull however is an ordinary guy with an ordinary blade and we saw multiple, colored versions of him (including the vivre card) where the edge is indeed black, not once retconned. And never in the history of the manga have we seen a character who has a blade with naturally dark/black edge (outside of Kokutos). Every blade in the manga that is not a Kokuto, consistently has a white edge. Why would Greenbull's sword be the sole exception? A dark edge in this manga is what differentiates a normal blade from a Kokuto or a blade clad in armament Haki.
 
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