Powers & Abilities Both Nika and Imu don’t have Black Blades
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Having black blade is more about good haki control and skillful swordsmanship , so thats like Mihawk thing . While other characters like Shanks go with raw power , he causes powerful haki outbursts but he lacks proper control as Rayleigh already explained it thats why he is knocking allies too with coc outbursts.
Shanks = Coc power - no control
Mihawk = Armament control + power
Shanks = Coc power - no control
Mihawk = Armament control + power
I mean it has to matter as the center of Zoro's existence. You can argue the relevance of the character, but not the relevance of the concept for the character.
Maybe Oda is writing about a shrinking type of masculinity. Like the guys who would rather throw hands than get a gun in real life. Perhaps Shanks and Mihawk are the only two to carry on for the likes of Xebec and Roger. Maybe after Zoro surpasses them, he'll open up a school.
Maybe Oda is writing about a shrinking type of masculinity. Like the guys who would rather throw hands than get a gun in real life. Perhaps Shanks and Mihawk are the only two to carry on for the likes of Xebec and Roger. Maybe after Zoro surpasses them, he'll open up a school.
It doesn't prove anything except you don't create a black blade by simply using haki with a blade. We already know that.
It's you pushing your headcannon that Nika and Imu have greater blade skills than Mihawk to try to discrete black blades.
Are they at their strongest when using their blades? That's an important part you left out. You are trying to make 2 character who have a lot of power beyond blade skills into blades men for you agenda. As I said earlier, it's funny.
Those are characters who are at the strongest when using a blade. That same isn't true for Imu and Nika. That's the difference. Understand that.
Why didn't Mihawk say since Shanks lost an arm he can't determine who stronger if that's what the manga meant? Why is Mihawk waiting for a swordsman stronger than Shanks if Shanks is stronger or he never beat Shanks? You make no sense because you're going against the manga.
Those two not being able to settle things could literally mean anything. You know Mihawk and Zoro currently have business they need to settle. If Zoro were to die before he's ready to fight Mihawk it means that their business was never settled. It doesn't mean Mihawk wasn't stronger than Zoro.
The most logical explanation is Mihawk beat Shanks every time they fought or had more wins. Before Shanks lost an arm Mihawk promised to fight him after he became a yonko. He fought 1 arm yonko Shanks, it would have occurred when Shanks told Mihawk about Luffy and his df. Shanks couldn't keep up with Mihawk now that he lost an arms. Mihawk didn't want to win that way so they stopped fighting. Technically there was no winner even though they both know Mihawk would have won.
Mihawk didn't run away. Mihawk gave Shanks a look and Shanks poured him wine. If Shsnks wanted to fight Mihawk so bad he could have but didn't. Manga facts.
So now clashing against somebody means you're equal to them? I guess Zoro is equal to BM+Kaido since he clashed and blocked their combo attack. When will people understand clashes mean nothing more than a clash. Luffy clashed against Kaido yet still needed G5 and help from multiple people to beat him. There goes your dumb clash mean they are equal argument.
Shanks and WB clash don't mean nothing more than it's a clash. He never proved to be stronger than WB or Mihawk.
WB title came from him having the power to destroy the world. Not for him being able to beat anybody in a fight. BB having WB DF doesn't automatically mean he will be able to use it to uts fullest. You seen to believe simply having power means being able to use it to its full capability. That has never been true.
Just because Oda hasn't revealed Mihawk past doesn't mean he didn't fight any strong opponents. We didn't know anything about BM and Kaido past until Oda revealed it. Yet, you expect people to know everything about Mihawk's past prior to Oda revealing it? You see how foolish you sound.
Since you believe Mihawk title is a rumor title why hasn't anyone questioned his title or called him a fraud? All you have is your headcannon. I will stick to Oda manga facts.
It's you pushing your headcannon that Nika and Imu have greater blade skills than Mihawk to try to discrete black blades.
Are they at their strongest when using their blades? That's an important part you left out. You are trying to make 2 character who have a lot of power beyond blade skills into blades men for you agenda. As I said earlier, it's funny.
Those are characters who are at the strongest when using a blade. That same isn't true for Imu and Nika. That's the difference. Understand that.
shank DID beat mohawk lmao
That's why mohawk said "i don't wanna settle with one armed man". The fact that mohawk is the one who said it means mohawk has something to settle against shank. Means either shank beat mohawk the last time they fought or shank won every time they fought or shank has won more times than mohawk.
None of that is good for mohawk lmao
And shank was ready and willing to fight. Mohawk is the one who made excuses and ran away
That's why mohawk said "i don't wanna settle with one armed man". The fact that mohawk is the one who said it means mohawk has something to settle against shank. Means either shank beat mohawk the last time they fought or shank won every time they fought or shank has won more times than mohawk.
None of that is good for mohawk lmao
And shank was ready and willing to fight. Mohawk is the one who made excuses and ran away
Those two not being able to settle things could literally mean anything. You know Mihawk and Zoro currently have business they need to settle. If Zoro were to die before he's ready to fight Mihawk it means that their business was never settled. It doesn't mean Mihawk wasn't stronger than Zoro.
The most logical explanation is Mihawk beat Shanks every time they fought or had more wins. Before Shanks lost an arm Mihawk promised to fight him after he became a yonko. He fought 1 arm yonko Shanks, it would have occurred when Shanks told Mihawk about Luffy and his df. Shanks couldn't keep up with Mihawk now that he lost an arms. Mihawk didn't want to win that way so they stopped fighting. Technically there was no winner even though they both know Mihawk would have won.
Mihawk didn't run away. Mihawk gave Shanks a look and Shanks poured him wine. If Shsnks wanted to fight Mihawk so bad he could have but didn't. Manga facts.
oda said old cancer beard was wsm too lol. So he is automatically above prime mohawk. And shank is equal to or stronger than old wb so shank is also above mohawk. you choosing to deny facts wont make you right 
wb title came from him being able to fight dodger the pk equally
why is bb not the wsm rn since he ha gura?
wb title came from him being able to fight dodger the pk equally
why is bb not the wsm rn since he ha gura?
Shanks and WB clash don't mean nothing more than it's a clash. He never proved to be stronger than WB or Mihawk.
WB title came from him having the power to destroy the world. Not for him being able to beat anybody in a fight. BB having WB DF doesn't automatically mean he will be able to use it to uts fullest. You seen to believe simply having power means being able to use it to its full capability. That has never been true.
Just because Oda hasn't revealed Mihawk past doesn't mean he didn't fight any strong opponents. We didn't know anything about BM and Kaido past until Oda revealed it. Yet, you expect people to know everything about Mihawk's past prior to Oda revealing it? You see how foolish you sound.
Since you believe Mihawk title is a rumor title why hasn't anyone questioned his title or called him a fraud? All you have is your headcannon. I will stick to Oda manga facts.
CoC will play a role in black blades unless you believe CoA > CoC haki.
To me black blades requires the greatest haki (CoC+CoA) control, the strongest haki (CoC+CoA) and being able to combine all of that with overwhelming haki and a massive amount of haki mass at the same time.
Each one of those can kill you if you use too much.
To me black blades requires the greatest haki (CoC+CoA) control, the strongest haki (CoC+CoA) and being able to combine all of that with overwhelming haki and a massive amount of haki mass at the same time.
Each one of those can kill you if you use too much.
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CoC will play a role in black blades unless you believe CoA > CoC haki.
To me black blades requires the greatest haki (CoC+CoA) control, the strongest haki (CoC+CoA) and being able to combine all of that with overwhelming haki and a massive amount of haki mass at the same time.
Each one of those can kill you if you use too much.
To me black blades requires the greatest haki (CoC+CoA) control, the strongest haki (CoC+CoA) and being able to combine all of that with overwhelming haki and a massive amount of haki mass at the same time.
Each one of those can kill you if you use too much.
Mihawk does not have haki hype SHanks and ROger are getting his haki aint that great.
i don't have to do anything to discredit kokuto when they don't have much credit in the manga to begin with lol.
This is fucking hilarious as fuck lmao
The non mohawktard factions have been literally saying this for years and years. Its been you retards who have argued that best haki = kokuto.
They certainly don't get any weaker when using a sword lol. og nika literally uses a sword and imu wouldn't be weaker when using a supreme grade sword.
Why is it that only imu and soyboy qualify for this exception from you guys? Why are Law and Fuji both of whom have insanely cracked dfs considered swordsmen but imu and nika who have df considered non swordsmen?
you can't pick and choose to fit your agenda.
Tjhey just channel their df using their swords. Imu can use a sword to channel his zoan power easily lol. He's already using a bladed weapon. A sword ain't that different. Like kaku was doing. And nika literally uses a sword.
Thats on mohawk lol. Him being a pathetic bitch and postponing every chance he gets is his own fault.
If he has something to settle against shank, and knows he can beat shank, he should just fight and beat shank.
Yet he doesn't.
bitch behavior from someone who knows they will lose
Nope. It's in regards to fighting you dumbfuck.
Because mohawk says that right after Shank asks if he came there for a fight.
No matter how much you don't want it to be, it was about a fight.
Lmao
It's zoro who has something to settle with mohawk. mohawk doesn't have anything to settle against zoro. And guess why?
Because mohawk beat zoro in their last encounter lol.
Basically you just proved that Shank beat mohawk in their last encounter or pretty much always. Pick your poison.
Lmfao
you are a legit retard
Mohawk would not have anything to settle if he beat shank more than shank beat him. Cause mohawk would be the winner in that case. Winners do not need to settle any scores unless it's revenge or something like that. Seeing as mohawk is quite friendly with shank, they don't have any real enmity between them. Thus the only conclusion anyone with a functioning brain would make is, Mohawk lost and needs to settle the score.
Keep coping with more delusional retardation tho.
shank was celebrating his disciple becoming a known pirate lol.
Mohawk travelled all the way to shank to deliver the good news to him.
Mohawk was working as a mail man to make shank happy
Also, Shank literally asked mohawk if he wanna fight lol. But mohawk is the one who made excuse and chickened out like a bitch. Just like in marineford against Vista and later shank
Zoro blocked their combo and broke 30 bones lmao
shank walked into wb's ship and clashed with him equally. It's portrayal. something i know mohawk fans don't understand cause yall ain't got any
shank has the best haki portrayal in the series other than the god tiers. mohawk has a fraudulent title.
BB literally did wb's best attacks with gura the second he got the df lol. If wb was wsm just because of the df, then bb would have immediately became wsm. He didn't.
Also, WB's hype also comes from being able to fight the pk equally
Keep coping.
Until we see it, we have no reason to give him any imaginary wins
The guy couldn't even beat vista for fuck's sake. And he certainly did not fight and defeat fujitora who has a supreme grade sword, nusujuro, GB who has a kokuto or any of the strong swordsmen we see. So there's no reason to think mohawk beat anyone strong.
1 bill bounty shank was his greatest rival and he's still waiting for someone who's stronger than that lol. Even tho there's plenty of people who are stronger than that out there.
We expect oda to give SOME kind of hype to zoro's supposed final fight. Yet every single time we see mohawk, he's either postponing fights or doing nothing at all.
Bro said he was excited the marines were hunting him, then a few chapters later he was packing his shit and moving lmao. Had to team up with croco and stay behind buggy
Cause mohawk just postpones immediately lol. Vista tried to expose mohawk and mohawk asked for postponement. Shank asked if he wanna fight and mohawk made some lame excuse. marine fodder pulled up and mohawk ran.
all these are him being exposed by oda himself
This is fucking hilarious as fuck lmao
The non mohawktard factions have been literally saying this for years and years. Its been you retards who have argued that best haki = kokuto.
They certainly don't get any weaker when using a sword lol. og nika literally uses a sword and imu wouldn't be weaker when using a supreme grade sword.
Why is it that only imu and soyboy qualify for this exception from you guys? Why are Law and Fuji both of whom have insanely cracked dfs considered swordsmen but imu and nika who have df considered non swordsmen?
you can't pick and choose to fit your agenda.
Tjhey just channel their df using their swords. Imu can use a sword to channel his zoan power easily lol. He's already using a bladed weapon. A sword ain't that different. Like kaku was doing. And nika literally uses a sword.
Thats on mohawk lol. Him being a pathetic bitch and postponing every chance he gets is his own fault.
If he has something to settle against shank, and knows he can beat shank, he should just fight and beat shank.
Yet he doesn't.
bitch behavior from someone who knows they will lose
Nope. It's in regards to fighting you dumbfuck.
Because mohawk says that right after Shank asks if he came there for a fight.
No matter how much you don't want it to be, it was about a fight.
Lmao
It's zoro who has something to settle with mohawk. mohawk doesn't have anything to settle against zoro. And guess why?
Because mohawk beat zoro in their last encounter lol.
Basically you just proved that Shank beat mohawk in their last encounter or pretty much always. Pick your poison.
Lmfao
you are a legit retard
Mohawk would not have anything to settle if he beat shank more than shank beat him. Cause mohawk would be the winner in that case. Winners do not need to settle any scores unless it's revenge or something like that. Seeing as mohawk is quite friendly with shank, they don't have any real enmity between them. Thus the only conclusion anyone with a functioning brain would make is, Mohawk lost and needs to settle the score.
Keep coping with more delusional retardation tho.
shank was celebrating his disciple becoming a known pirate lol.
Mohawk travelled all the way to shank to deliver the good news to him.
Mohawk was working as a mail man to make shank happy
Also, Shank literally asked mohawk if he wanna fight lol. But mohawk is the one who made excuse and chickened out like a bitch. Just like in marineford against Vista and later shank
Zoro blocked their combo and broke 30 bones lmao
shank walked into wb's ship and clashed with him equally. It's portrayal. something i know mohawk fans don't understand cause yall ain't got any
shank has the best haki portrayal in the series other than the god tiers. mohawk has a fraudulent title.
BB literally did wb's best attacks with gura the second he got the df lol. If wb was wsm just because of the df, then bb would have immediately became wsm. He didn't.
Also, WB's hype also comes from being able to fight the pk equally
Keep coping.
Until we see it, we have no reason to give him any imaginary wins
The guy couldn't even beat vista for fuck's sake. And he certainly did not fight and defeat fujitora who has a supreme grade sword, nusujuro, GB who has a kokuto or any of the strong swordsmen we see. So there's no reason to think mohawk beat anyone strong.
1 bill bounty shank was his greatest rival and he's still waiting for someone who's stronger than that lol. Even tho there's plenty of people who are stronger than that out there.
We expect oda to give SOME kind of hype to zoro's supposed final fight. Yet every single time we see mohawk, he's either postponing fights or doing nothing at all.
Bro said he was excited the marines were hunting him, then a few chapters later he was packing his shit and moving lmao. Had to team up with croco and stay behind buggy
Cause mohawk just postpones immediately lol. Vista tried to expose mohawk and mohawk asked for postponement. Shank asked if he wanna fight and mohawk made some lame excuse. marine fodder pulled up and mohawk ran.
all these are him being exposed by oda himself
