One Piece Chapter 1180: OMEN
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Don’t ignore the question of it wasn’t king of hell what do you call it?
Luffy was in g5 for a shorter period of time before he started getting tired but didn’t use it to the point he fully exhausted himself
Luffy was in g5 longer in egghead before he got gassed out and was in a way worse shape
Luffy is still exhausted now after using g5 needing to eat food to recover energy something we’ve seen him need to do multiple times since wano. If anything Wano was the exception not the other way around
Not when Zoro himself was complaining
You can argue that Kuzan was mentally nerfed against Garp
You can even argue thst the admiral and Whitebeard were nerfed on marineford due to their destructive powers
You can’t make the same excuses for zoro
Luffy was in g5 for a shorter period of time before he started getting tired but didn’t use it to the point he fully exhausted himself
Luffy was in g5 longer in egghead before he got gassed out and was in a way worse shape
Not when Zoro himself was complaining
You can argue that Kuzan was mentally nerfed against Garp
You can even argue thst the admiral and Whitebeard were nerfed on marineford due to their destructive powers
You can’t make the same excuses for zoro
The dialogue serving the contrivance doesn't make it not a contrivance.
Contrivances don't need excuses either, just understanding.
You don't actually believe Zoro is incapable of using the move he used to put down Lucci without Sanji talking shit to motivate him.
Like Luffy's dumbass fight with Kizaru, you just accept it as being in service to the story.
Contrivances don't need excuses either, just understanding.
You don't actually believe Zoro is incapable of using the move he used to put down Lucci without Sanji talking shit to motivate him.
Like Luffy's dumbass fight with Kizaru, you just accept it as being in service to the story.
Believing Zoro could beat Lucci doesn’t mean that without Sanji or even Jinbe he would have been able to finally land an attack then
And yes same way Luffy needed to hear Usopp as motivation Zoro needed Sanji as motivation
There’s nothing wrong with the Luffy vs Kizaru fight. Kizaru’s goal was to try to kill vegapunk and Luffy’s goal was to try and stop him. It was never supposed to be a real 1v1 fight to see who’s stronger
- Remove Sanji shit talking and Jinbe would’ve had to help Zoro even more
- Remove Sanji and Jinbe then Zoro at best would have kept fighting Lucci for even longer
And yes same way Luffy needed to hear Usopp as motivation Zoro needed Sanji as motivation
There’s nothing wrong with the Luffy vs Kizaru fight. Kizaru’s goal was to try to kill vegapunk and Luffy’s goal was to try and stop him. It was never supposed to be a real 1v1 fight to see who’s stronger
The issue with Zoro imo is oda has sidelined him a lot in post skip. He introduces characters like law , loki , Yamato etc who are given more prominence than zoro like law in PH and dressrossa where he fights Doffy and defeats BM in wano or Yamato having a extended fight with Kaido were Zoro is given a YC1 to beat.
Now in elbaph loki seems to be a bigger deal again. In pre skip it was far more SH centric when it came to fighters like paulie doesn't beat any CP0 characters.
Now in elbaph loki seems to be a bigger deal again. In pre skip it was far more SH centric when it came to fighters like paulie doesn't beat any CP0 characters.
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Don’t ignore the question of it wasn’t king of hell what do you call it?
Luffy was in g5 for a shorter period of time before he started getting tired but didn’t use it to the point he fully exhausted himself
Luffy was in g5 longer in egghead before he got gassed out and was in a way worse shape
Luffy is still exhausted now after using g5 needing to eat food to recover energy something we’ve seen him need to do multiple times since wano. If anything Wano was the exception not the other way around
Not when Zoro himself was complaining
You can argue that Kuzan was mentally nerfed against Garp
You can even argue thst the admiral and Whitebeard were nerfed on marineford due to their destructive powers
You can’t make the same excuses for zoro
Luffy was in g5 for a shorter period of time before he started getting tired but didn’t use it to the point he fully exhausted himself
Luffy was in g5 longer in egghead before he got gassed out and was in a way worse shape
Not when Zoro himself was complaining
You can argue that Kuzan was mentally nerfed against Garp
You can even argue thst the admiral and Whitebeard were nerfed on marineford due to their destructive powers
You can’t make the same excuses for zoro
Plus all the other times he gassed out in G5 he recovered quickly and could still move around. This is notably different from how he gassed out after fighting Kizaru, where he was utterly helpless and needed a ton of food to recover.
It's obvious that Oda wanted to keep him from ruining Saturn's entrance so he made up a way for him to stay down during it. No different from him being thrown into the ocean at Arlong Park.
And the same applies to Zoro being stalled by Lucci.
