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Loki and Luffy aren’t going to beat Imu is what people aren’t getting. Their objective is simply to survive until Imu’s time in the lower world runs out or he’s forced to return (for whatever reason)
It’s legit just stalling
That’s very different from claiming the Strawhats are gonna jump from Holy Knight fodder to defeating boosted versions with a single powerup
It’s legit just stalling
That’s very different from claiming the Strawhats are gonna jump from Holy Knight fodder to defeating boosted versions with a single powerup
Again, we’ve seen her normal still be in the transformation so the form isn’t fully dependent on Imu.
And we have yet to see another individual ageless outside of her and the gorosei.
She’s special among the HKs. Using her to try and upscale Sommers and Killingham is like trying to use Lucci to upscale Fukuro and Kumadori
And we have yet to see another individual ageless outside of her and the gorosei.
She’s special among the HKs. Using her to try and upscale Sommers and Killingham is like trying to use Lucci to upscale Fukuro and Kumadori
This whole debate hinges on judging characters previous performances. The fact is, we don’t know how much more powerful the Knights are with the Omen boost. There are no rules here, we haven’t seen this amp before. Maybe it makes them ten times stronger and adds abilities to their arsenal. The main problem with the Gorosei suggestion is the implication of Imu falling here, it isn’t going to happen. Never in the history of this manga have the top subordinates fallen while their leader doesn’t, so unless we believe Imu will be beaten here, the Gorosei will not fall either.
What’s been established to be of primary importance is for the M3 to develop the ability to properly counter regeneration, not through gimmicks. It isn't necessary for the Knights to push Zoro and Sanji combat wise, only to serve as training tools. While I agree with the sentiment that the Knights have looked lackluster, I also recognize that Oda has humiliated far stronger and significantly more important characters before.
What’s been established to be of primary importance is for the M3 to develop the ability to properly counter regeneration, not through gimmicks. It isn't necessary for the Knights to push Zoro and Sanji combat wise, only to serve as training tools. While I agree with the sentiment that the Knights have looked lackluster, I also recognize that Oda has humiliated far stronger and significantly more important characters before.
So Luffy can suddenly jump 2-3 tiers to go from doing nothing vs Warcury to fighting Omen boosted Imu, likely damaging him too, just cause he eats for 2 more minutes.
But the other strawhats can't vs the HK?
Nothing even suggests Sommers & Killingham are above Frank & Jimbe. That's why the HK were called weak in-story earlier.
But the other strawhats can't vs the HK?
Nothing even suggests Sommers & Killingham are above Frank & Jimbe. That's why the HK were called weak in-story earlier.
Except that if Omen boost HK 10x, it does that for Imu as well.
Imu by default should be above Warcury. Give him a 10x boost and what exactly can Luffy do then?
The sheer gap in HK and Imu is the main issue, along with their awful, lackluster portrayal this arc. They even get called weak in-story by the strawhats a few chapters ago. To have the wings fight them, is a bad look for the whole strawhat crew.
Imu by default should be above Warcury. Give him a 10x boost and what exactly can Luffy do then?
The sheer gap in HK and Imu is the main issue, along with their awful, lackluster portrayal this arc. They even get called weak in-story by the strawhats a few chapters ago. To have the wings fight them, is a bad look for the whole strawhat crew.
I don’t believe Luffy wins here. All Imu does is push Luffy toward a power up, then is forced to retreat due to an area restriction. Oda will make it obvious that Luffy would’ve died if the fight had continued. Now, the only other option is for Zoro and Sanji’s future Gorosei opponents to show up and serve the same purpose, before also retreating with Imu. Meanwhile, the other Straw Hats hold off Sommers and Killingham until they withdraw from the battle as well. Though, writing-wise, it would be odd to bring in the Gorosei after Imu’s arrival; usually, you’d keep the biggest reveal or entry for last.
Loki is a different case as portrayal wise and feats wise he looks much better than Luffy. (even if one were to assume God King defeated Loki in 1 vs 1, I have no reason to assume Mr.Gear 5 minutes wouldn't get clapped by his hero either )
While there's no way for Oda to justify Luffy throwing hand with Imu without making Egghead the worst written arc in shonen. Luffy should logically get his ass clapped the majority of the fight, with maybe awakening some more Nika bullshit at the end and landing one good hit on Imu before he has to leave.
While there's no way for Oda to justify Luffy throwing hand with Imu without making Egghead the worst written arc in shonen. Luffy should logically get his ass clapped the majority of the fight, with maybe awakening some more Nika bullshit at the end and landing one good hit on Imu before he has to leave.
