Powers & Abilities Imu in Elbaf is impressive but not enough impressive

#61
There’s really no reason to believe that a WG official secretly has the 4th RP. We know for sure that none of the Gorosei are the BSM. Neither is Shamrock, the most important HK, or Gunko, the 2nd most important HK. Why would some random ass HK who’s at best marginally stronger than Super Sommers and Killingham be given a role as narratively important as being the guardian of the final RP?

It’s obviously gonna be some ancient pirate that was forgotten to time
 
#62
“BM Naruto is already at 80-90% of his max EoS power”

You do know how Shonen battle manga work, right? Luffy isn’t gonna get some marginal powerup(s), his next powerup(s) are gonna be massive boosts
Luffy 100% has one or two big PUs (if not more depending on how retarded it gets) left. We all agree the wings has significant growth left, Oda isn't going to let his MC be the only one staying static while his underlings get new cool shit
If any I wouldn't be surprised if he gets something by the end of this arc since Sanji is likely going to get aCOC and Gaban words suggested that Zoro is going to get a better mastery of it.
 
#63
I´m talking about Roger, not Luffy. Why would the government have a RP 25 years, ago when they were all banned and in obscurity after centuries? Why would it not come up in the Oden flashback?
Roger found it on Fishman Island, someone took it after that and people say it's the man marked by flames.



Then years later it's gone:

 
#64
Luffy 100% has one or two big PUs (if not more depending on how retarded it gets) left. We all agree the wings has significant growth left, Oda isn't going to let his MC be the only one staying static while his underlings get new cool shit
If any I wouldn't be surprised if he gets something by the end of this arc since Sanji is likely going to get aCOC and Gaban words suggested that Zoro is going to get a better mastery of it.
There actually are still some mouthbreathers who believe that EoS Zoro/Sanji can push EoS Luffy to extreme diff, lol.

A lot of them are actually Admiral fans who are only pushing that retarded take because they’re worried that Wings will fight 2 Admirals at the same time that Luffy fights Akainu, and they really want to stick with their headcanon that all Admirals can push Akainu to extreme diff
 
#66
Roger found it on Fishman Island, someone took it after that and people say it's the man marked by flames.



Then it's gone:

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Brother, what does that have to do with the fact that the strongest crew could not fight and defeat Imu?

I´m not trying to debate who the final villain is(I think its blackbeard)

It´s objectively not a good look that Rayleigh says he couldn´t win a head to head fight with Blackbeard.... *these days*

When Prime Rayleigh is not allowed to sniff Imcel.

Imu>>any(current) Yonko is pretty obvious
 
#67
A lot of them are actually Admiral fans who are only pushing that retarded take because they’re worried that Wings will fight 2 Admirals at the same time that Luffy fights Akainu, and they really want to stick with their headcanon that all Admirals can push Akainu to extreme diff
:MonkeighWhat:

No Admiral fan supports Sanji vs an admiral buddy
 
#70
There it is, Yawnco fan abject denial of reality lmfao.

Teach sailed across the whole ocean for Handcock, then as soon as Rayleigh showed up, he sailed right back across the entire ocean. Lol

Objective confirmation that 100 year old Rayleigh > Yawnco
You know how dumb you look when you put that avatar and argue like a clown to lowball Teach? :vistalaugh:

Teach literally said his objective not let the Marines take Hancock's DF. He said that 2 times.

And once he understood the Marines won't take it because Rayleigh arrived, and he also need to take his 2 commanders back, kidnapped the Marines, he accomplished his goal, the Marines didn't take Hancock.

If he wanted Hancock's DF, he would go after her before she lost the Warlord title.

Rayleigh admitted Teach is stronger, so stop crying about it lmao.

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Brother, what does that have to do with the fact that the strongest crew could not fight and defeat Imu?

I´m not trying to debate who the final villain is(I think its blackbeard)

It´s objectively not a good look that Rayleigh says he couldn´t win a head to head fight with Blackbeard.... *these days*

When Prime Rayleigh is not allowed to sniff Imcel.

Imu>>any(current) Yonko is pretty obvious
I said the government might need to fall in order to find One Piece. That's because the government might have the Road Ponegliff as Shiryu said.

What are you arguing here? Lol.

Also you make nonsense again for Imu, Imu doesn't look great against a guy that Shanks already beat.

- No FS
- No sky split yet.
 
#74
I said the government might need to fall in order to find One Piece. That's because the government might have the Road Ponegliff as Shiryu said.
But.... One Piece is on Laughtale... the Roger pirates found it. So no, catagoricially, it isn´t necessary for the government to fall to find the OP. In current times? Sure, who knows

What are you arguing here? Lol.

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Teach running away from Rayleigh is a bad look, in comparison to someone like Imu

What are you arguing here? Lol.

Also you make nonsense again for Imu, Imu doesn't look great against a guy that Shanks already beat.

- No FS
- No sky split yet.
Maybe, but we´ve been told like 3 times his Haki is the strongest, and he has the most broken DF power in the series, enough to completely control fucking Rocks, who is like one of the strongest characters ever. The flashback is still ultimately canon

Also, Imu is obviously a rival/somewhat relative to Joyboy, who split the sky solo with his haki.
 
#75
There actually are still some mouthbreathers who believe that EoS Zoro/Sanji can push EoS Luffy to extreme diff, lol.

A lot of them are actually Admiral fans who are only pushing that retarded take because they’re worried that Wings will fight 2 Admirals at the same time that Luffy fights Akainu, and they really want to stick with their headcanon that all Admirals can push Akainu to extreme diff
Tbh half the One Piece fanbase still believe Prime Luffy vs Roger is an extreme diff and that Shanks vs BIg Mom goes either way. They're perma stuck in 2011
 
#77
They upscale the admirals by being confirmed beneath them
HKs are a secret force though, so they aren’t really included in Robin’s statement about the Admirals being the strongest WG military force (same goes for the Gorosei).

Obviously Admirals >> rank and file HKs regardless, but not because of Robin’s statement. Garling and Shamrock are likely above Admirals though
 
#78
Tbh half the One Piece fanbase still believe Prime Luffy vs Roger is an extreme diff and that Shanks vs BIg Mom goes either way. They're perma stuck in 2011
Half the fandom are larpers who don’t know how to let outdated theories go. We’ve still got people here who think Usopp will wield Ragnir, and even popular YouTubers like Lorj still believe that Usopp might fight Killingham this arc
 
#79
HKs are a secret force though, so they aren’t really included in Robin’s statement about the Admirals being the strongest WG military force (same goes for the Gorosei).

Obviously Admirals >> rank and file HKs regardless, but not because of Robin’s statement. Garling and Shamrock are likely above Admirals though
Not that.

The fact that the Gorosei tried to deter Imu from going to Elbaf with "let us go ourselves" and "let us send the admirals" hard confirms the strongest fighters in the government are the gorosei and the admirals.

Keep in mind they literally make the suggestion after the holy knights have failed a mission which makes these even more blatant.

Nothing Shamrock will show will put him above Saturn.
 
#80
But.... One Piece is on Laughtale... the Roger pirates found it. So no, catagoricially, it isn´t necessary for the government to fall to find the OP. In current times? Sure, who knows
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You thought Road Ponegliffs are in the same place since Roger's time. I proved it's not, and it's most likely the government has it. So unlike Roger, right now they have to beat the Government.

That also aligns with what I said, if they find OP before beating the government, other pirates will attack them, they can't fight the government in that condition so they have to beat the government before finding OP.

Teach running away from Rayleigh is a bad look, in comparison to someone like Imu


Maybe, but we´ve been told like 3 times his Haki is the strongest, and he has the most broken DF power in the series, enough to completely control fucking Rocks, who is like one of the strongest characters ever. The flashback is still ultimately canon

Also, Imu is obviously a rival/somewhat relative to Joyboy, who split the sky solo with his haki.
You making shit up is a bad look lmao.

Rayleigh told him if he doesn't kill Hancock, he will give 2 hostage commanders back, and Teach accepted the deal, he also knew the Marines won't take Hancock's DF after Rayleigh arrived, that's why he went there to prevent that. There was no running away, he kidnapped the Marines on the same island for that reason as well, to make sure the Marines won't make any moves.

Rayleigh admits he is weaker than Teach, the clowns keep crying about this and they struggle how they can make excuses about it lmao.
 
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