Powers & Abilities Imu in Elbaf is impressive but not enough impressive

[soupongo]

You thought Road Ponegliffs are in the same place since Roger's time. I proved it's not, and it's most likely the government has it. So unlike Roger, right now they have to beat the Government.

That also aligns with what I said, if they find OP before beating the government, other pirates will attack them, they can't fight the government in that condition so they have to beat the government before finding OP.

I literally never said anything like that in my life lmfao

You making shit up is a bad look lmao.

Rayleigh told him if he doesn't kill Hancock, he will give 2 hostage commanders back, and Teach accepted the deal, he also knew the Marines won't take Hancock's DF after Rayleigh arrived, that's why he went there to prevent that. There was no running away, he kidnapped the Marines on the same island for that reason as well, to make sure the Marines won't make any moves.

Rayleigh admits he is weaker than Teach, the clowns keep crying about this and they struggle how they can make excuses about it lmao.

You can justify anything with context:
Regardless, you can put Imu on Amazon Lilly, and Rayleigh will achieve nothing. Imu won´t sweat or be scared of Rayleigh, he was stoic at the entire GV 6 attacking him

You can put Blackbeard on God Valley, and he straight up dies

 

[Shiroyru]

Not that.

The fact that the Gorosei tried to deter Imu from going to Elbaf with "let us go ourselves" and "let us send the admirals" hard confirms the strongest fighters in the government are the gorosei and the admirals.

Keep in mind they literally make the suggestion after the holy knights have failed a mission which makes these even more blatant.

Sure, but it was already abundantly clear by that point by feats alone that Admirals >> HKs except for the Figarlands

Nothing Shamrock will show will put him above Saturn.

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

Sure, but it was already abundantly clear by that point by feats alone that Admirals >> HKs except for the Figarlands

Idk what to tell you my guy

 

[Erkan12]

I literally never said anything like that in my life lmfao

Then what were you arguing with this lmao

I´m talking about Roger, not Luffy. Why would the government have a RP 25 years, ago when they were all banned and in obscurity after centuries? Why would it not come up in the Oden flashback?

You can justify anything with context:
Regardless, you can put Imu on Amazon Lilly, and Rayleigh will achieve nothing. Imu won´t sweat or be scared of Rayleigh, he was stoic at the entire GV 6 attacking him

You can put Blackbeard on God Valley, and he straight up dies

Irrelevant stuff. I said Teach > Rayleigh by Rayleigh's admission, that's it. You can write an essay about it if you are that butthurt, that won't change anything.

 

[Camie]

Imu is just yappin and not going all out. Its classic big bad villian trope.

 

[soupongo]

Then what were you arguing with this lmao

That the Roger pirates disbanded after learning the truth about Imu and his powers. obviously?

Irrelevant stuff. I said Teach > Rayleigh by Rayleigh's admission, that's it. You can write an essay about it if you are that butthurt, that won't change anything.

Okay but, Imu>>Teach>Old Rayleigh

 

[soupongo]

Sure, but it was already abundantly clear by that point by feats alone that Admirals >> HKs except for the Figarlands

stop trying to ruin our alliance with the admiral fandom, or you´re getting kicked out of the Gods Knights fandom

 

[Ven437]

Imu showing feel more like a Super Yonko instead of someone truly above all top tiers.


Its impressive, very impressive just not Godlike impressive.


Couldn't put down sanji
All giant are back
Zoro is fine and not portrayed or stated to be heavily injured (we only got a page of him reflecting on imus abilities and the way zoro talk about it further confirm he was caught off guard yet by the three simultaneous pistol impact hits).
Loki vs Imu, while imu has shown his superiority, the fight is being dragged on for too long for someone who defeated Xebec and no sold six Emperors


As for overpowering zoro I think most top tier can do it too if their ability too is bizarre and Zoro is not aware of their power in a first clash.

Loki also was helpless and stabbed, pinned down by imu in less than 5 second because he didnt expect such thing from imu (flame that change into weapon and bomb).

It feel like Flashback Imu as a shadow will no diff the Imu fighting so far in Elbaf.

Hopefully he will get serious soon, because this arent it.



Like I sat above, his showing are fine just not enough.

We need real consequence and no need to hold back the goodwill guys.

Let them fight and have imu show why he is the boss.

This is what truly set villain like Madara appart, kishimoto first have everyone use anything they have against him before he crush them, even when madara just stood there you could feel that pressure.




@nik87 @Blazing Lion @mly90

This Imu to Madara comparison is very disingenuous

Edo Madara was buffed up relative to other edos. Imu here is on the other hand nerfed

Madara casually used a double meteor atk which easily surpassed anything we saw until then. Imu already demonstrated the most impressive haki display after Joyboy, his haki reached all across Elbaf under Gunko body, now he's focusing his powers

He negged Zoro and Sanji, two characters who admirals would have serious difficulty putting down, and are now delegated to fighting his massively weaker minions

If anything it feels more like Imu is toying with Loki instead. And we know for a fact he's nerfed and prob on a timer too

His first real fight is Loki who many on the forum underestimate. And that is cuz Shanks sent him packing back to Elbaf, which is at the source of all the perception of Loki being weaker than PK level

The problem is either Shanks is just THAT strong, his haki is apparently Joyboy lvl, or he used tricks. Oda's attempts to save face for his self-insert are indirectly harming Imu's portrayal which on its own is highly impressive

 

[kekaro]

They avenged Jiaga the martyr. It´s a pretty big deal

HKs are a secret force though, so they aren’t really included in Robin’s statement about the Admirals being the strongest WG military force (same goes for the Gorosei).

Obviously Admirals >> rank and file HKs regardless, but not because of Robin’s statement. Garling and Shamrock are likely above Admirals though

Fraud to fraud communication

 

[Erkan12]

That the Roger pirates disbanded after learning the truth about Imu and his powers. obviously?

You said:"Why would the government have a RP 25 years, ago when they were all banned and in obscurity after centuries? Why would it not come up in the Oden flashback?"
Government didn't have a RP 25 years ago, they took it later.

So it's different now, Roger didn't have to defeat the government, but right now as Shiryu says, the government most likely have a RP so the government needs to be defeated before finding OP.

Okay but, Imu>>Teach>Old Rayleigh

You act like this is Dragon Ball, matchups matters also. If Teach can cancel Imu's devil power, Imu will struggle even more against Teach than he struggles vs Loki.

Rayleigh is the worst matchup vs Teach since he has no devil ability, still he admits he would lose vs Teach.

 

[soupongo]

Fraud to fraud communication

Stand up for Luffys number 3 to fight Sakazuki´s equal, and you sink even lower

You said:"Why would the government have a RP 25 years, ago when they were all banned and in obscurity after centuries? Why would it not come up in the Oden flashback?"
Government didn't have a RP 25 years ago, they took it later.

So it's different now, Roger didn't have to defeat the government, but right now as Shiryu says, the government most likely have a RP so the government needs to be defeated before finding OP.
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Okay, but he would have wanted to beat the government to prevent the world sinking, it´s made pretty clear. They just find out at Laughtale that they probably couldnt do it, which doesnt have too much to do with the rest of what you´re yapping about

You act like this is Dragon Ball, matchups matters also. If Teach can cancel Imu's devil power, Imu will struggle even more against Teach than he struggles vs Loki.

Rayleigh is the worst matchup vs Teach since he has no devil ability, still he admits he would lose vs Teach.

Okay, but Imu canonically has better Haki than God Valley Saturnmu, who has better haki than Rayleigh in Gabans mind

It´s just not a good look for Teach to get bitched so hard, so late in the story.

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

@Shiroyru The Shamrock scenes in Elbaf are funny af because legitimately this is how a fight between Ragnir and Shamrock would go

 

[Shiroyru]

@Shiroyru The Shamrock scenes in Elbaf are funny af because legitimately this is how a fight between Ragnir and Shamrock would go

Cerberus handles Fraudnir

 

[Shiroyru]

@soupongo I wonder if Cerberus will have hellfire comparable to Ratatoskr’s magic ice

 

[TheKnightOfTheSea]

Usopp could probably actually wield Cerberus

 

[Shiroyru]

Usopp could probably actually wield Cerberus

Usopp after trying to tame Cerberus

 

[soupongo]

@soupongo I wonder if Cerberus will have hellfire comparable to Ratatoskr’s magic ice

Tbh, I just hope Oda doubles down on giving Garling and Shamrock Greek Mythology themed DFs

 

[TheKnightOfTheSea]

Tbh, I just hope Oda doubles down on giving Garling and Shamrock Greek Mythology themed DFs

i need typhon df for Garling

 

[vikas]

This is not impressive. Stop getting used to shit.

 

[Erkan12]

Okay, but he would have wanted to beat the government to prevent the world sinking, it´s made pretty clear. They just find out at Laughtale that they probably couldnt do it, which doesnt have too much to do with the rest of what you´re yapping about
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That's about finding the Ancient Weapons, and controlling the Ancient Weapons. The government will be defeated already if someone manages to control all ancient weapons since the Uranus is under the government's control.

So not only the government has possibly a RP also has ancient weapon Uranus.

They have to defeat the government then find the Laugh Tale.

The fact is Imu is revealed too soon for a reason and most likely will take an L too soon in Elbaf.

It's also a fact that if they find One Piece treasure first, all other pirates will fight them for it, which would be harder, fighting the government before finding it is easier by making alliances.

Oda also said this, he will end the series after finding One Piece.

Okay, but Imu canonically has better Haki than God Valley Saturnmu, who has better haki than Rayleigh in Gabans mind
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Demonic Haki doesn't mean stronger Haki. Imu didn't even split the sky. Joy Boy's Haki even wifi-diffed Imu lmao.

Also, Imu's demonic Haki most likely tied to his devil ability. Once it's canceled his Haki will get weaker.

It´s just not a good look for Teach to get bitched so hard, so late in the story.

Rayleigh would get bitched by his own admission if not for hostages despite having matchup advantage due to having no devil power.