Controversial Be smart and quit One Piece OR admit you love it

That’s how all commies are. Parade to be the ones caring about free speech yet are the first ones to become 10x more authoritarian when they see an inch of opportunity.
It's always "seize the means of production" and never "create the means of production" cause Marx and his true followers are all absolute parasites. Lol.
 
Let me repeat:

If your hatred of a story X becomes the defaut setting of the space you interact in, your space will stop being a X-related community and become an environment where the social pressure will shift from pushing people to love X, to pushing people to critic or hate X.

This is ok as long as this space doesn't advertises itself as part of the "fan"base.
Let me repeat.

This is your opinion that this place is set on hatred. I see plenty of people who likes OP and talk about it with respect. You chose to see only the negativity because it affects you.
ur too smart. Got me again
Can you see Japan up there on your high horse ?
I think you are missunderstanding something. It seems like you equate accessibility to a form of free for all.

Accesibility is a necessity. But accessibility also means understanding. If you are unable to understand the story that you consume, you are not accessing its content, you will be subjected to it.

Accessibility implies the necessity to render accessible the tools to understand, criticize and question culture. This can't be done in an environment where everyone think they can understand storytelling simply because they have read 15 to 30 stories. It's not that easy. even I'm not always sure to understand everything and I've research this domain for ages.

What I wish is for people to pause, learn how the material works, understand its principle, understand its deepness THEN critic. This is why you see me sharing everything that I know about the craft.

Let me give you an exemple: Sanji cried for Robin to help him.

At the time, most of the community criticized the development, explaining that somehow Sanji was being "weak" or that Oda stopped caring or that Sanji was becoming the "but of the joke". This is a clear case of a lack of understanding of the work based on illegitimate expectations, a bad analysis of the character and eventually, a dangerous vision of behavior in general.

My point is that example like that can be seen all over the community and worstgen from 20 years ago to this very last chapter. Small things but in the end, consequential missunderstanding that completely strip us from critically appreciating OR criticizing the story.
I am not misunserstanding anything. I don't need to be a food critic to say if I like or dislike a great chef's dish.
People have different opinions, tastes, set of values, etc... something that you can't accept as you've shown multiple times here.

Maybe they read only 2 or 3 mangas, maybe 50, maybe a 100. But so what? They're not allowed to give their opinions on OP because you the expert disagrees with them?
Even people with literature degrees disagree on some books. We're going to keep only the opinions we agree with?

Nobody here is pretending to know better (well, except you). They are just giving their opinions, if you can't deal with an opinion other than yours, maybe you should only talk to yourself.

The key word in all of that is Opinion btw.
 
Yet, you are still talking about him.

About Oda? I told you I'm enjoying Elbaf but it doesn't mean I agree to everything like an obeying lil sheep lol. In fact, I agree with the critics that the Domi Reversi plot was handled very poorly and the flashback being wrongly placed. I also disagree that Elbaf is extremely terrible when it comes to pacing in general. It depends on the content.

What are you gonna do about that? Cry to your circle about it?
 
What I wish would be for Worstgen to become a hub for people to learn this and politicize at the same time. It's is the opposite of creating an "elite" forum, I want people from every origin to interact in a safe space aroudn a common love for a material and become experts at reading stories, mainly because media literacy is one of the best tool to protect ourselves against real dangerous political propaganda.
It is not for you to decide what Worstgen should be. I feel pretty safe here anyway. You are also safe. Nobody is attacking you or telling you to stop saying Oda is great.
You can have fun and still be sharp.
If I am not allowed to say what I think about a manga, then no, I won't have fun and I won't be sharp. I'll be a parrot and feel useless, powerless and like an idiot.
 
It is not for you to decide what Worstgen should be. I feel pretty safe here anyway. You are also safe. Nobody is attacking you or telling you to stop saying Oda is great.
I keep telling him that he could just make his own forum but proactivity is poison to a parasite. That and he wants WorstGen subjugated so creating his own place instead of subverting this one is tantamount to defeat for him.
 
Oda angels are truly the Nintendrones of the anime/manga community lol
Weren't you also one of Oda's angels?
Still remember in Wano days, I was praising Fairy Tail while exposing One Piece's bad side and I tagged you and playa hoping you both would back me up, only to get both of you jumped at me and defending One Piss instead

But seems you have seen the light :BigW:
 
Let me repeat.

This is your opinion that this place is set on hatred. I see plenty of people who likes OP and talk about it with respect. You chose to see only the negativity because it affects you.
Sure, then tell me, where are all the positive thread praising One Piece ? Or analysing how good it is?

I mean, if there was positivity like you said, there should be at the very least an equal amount of positivity that we can see for the negative, wouldn't you agree?

So where is it?

:shocking:


Can you see Japan up there on your high horse ?
Only China, my horse is a poney


I am not misunserstanding anything. I don't need to be a food critic to say if I like or dislike a great chef's dish.
Taste is a social construction mate


Maybe they read only 2 or 3 mangas, maybe 50, maybe a 100. But so what? They're not allowed to give their opinions on OP because you the expert disagrees with them?
Even people with literature degrees disagree on some books. We're going to keep only the opinions we agree with?
Everyone is allowed to speak about X of course, but when what is said about X start to destroy the very purpose of the fabric of the understanding of X, speaking with the contextual and technical understanding of X starts to become a necessity.

Do you know what I mean?

The only one here who are against accessibility are you guys. By stripping away the tools to understand properly X within its narrative and social context through trashtalking and social pressure, you remove the possibility for yourself and your social environment to critically analyze X, both for good and for bad.

This works with One Piece like any other things. This is why a big tool for reactionnary movements is to strip away the culture from its depth.

Removing the depth or denying the depth of X will eventually strip away the conscious of X, letting everyone expose either to X or tthe propaganda against X. And I'm not only talking about One Piece anymore.


What are you gonna do about that? Cry to your circle about it?
Saying you are wrong is enough don't worry

:goyea:

It is not for you to decide what Worstgen should be. I feel pretty safe here anyway. You are also safe. Nobody is attacking you or telling you to stop saying Oda is great.
Please. Do me a favor and go read the replies on Blax's thread here:

https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...e-of-the-best-pieces-of-literature-yet.83478/

Then come back and tell me without trembling that this is a safe place. I'm waiting.


If I am not allowed to say what I think about a manga, then no, I won't have fun and I won't be sharp. I'll be a parrot and feel useless, powerless and like an idiot.
No one wants to silence you. Don't worry.


That and he wants WorstGen subjugated so creating his own place instead of subverting this one is tantamount to defeat for him.
Well, I can't say that you are completely wrong here.

:pepepopcorn:


I was praising Fairy Tail
:ClownStare:
 
Sure, then tell me, where are all the positive thread praising One Piece ? Or analysing how good it is?

I mean, if there was positivity like you said, there should be at the very least an equal amount of positivity that we can see for the negative, wouldn't you agree?

So where is it?

:shocking:



Only China, my horse is a poney




Taste is a social construction mate



Everyone is allowed to speak about X of course, but when what is said about X start to destroy the very purpose of the fabric of the understanding of X, speaking with the contextual and technical understanding of X starts to become a necessity.

Do you know what I mean?

The only one here who are against accessibility are you guys. By stripping away the tools to understand properly X within its narrative and social context through trashtalking and social pressure, you remove the possibility for yourself and your social environment to critically analyze X, both for good and for bad.

This works with One Piece like any other things. This is why a big tool for reactionnary movements is to strip away the culture from its depth.

Removing the depth or denying the depth of X will eventually strip away the conscious of X, letting everyone expose either to X or tthe propaganda against X. And I'm not only talking about One Piece anymore.



Saying you are wrong is enough don't worry

:goyea:


Please. Do me a favor and go read the replies on Blax's thread here:

https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...e-of-the-best-pieces-of-literature-yet.83478/

Then come back and tell me without trembling that this is a safe place. I'm waiting.



No one wants to silence you. Don't worry.



Well, I can't say that you are completely wrong here.

:pepepopcorn:



:ClownStare:
Look at this clown, @Topi Jerami. He's praising the shit out of One Piece as if it's a literature nobody else has seen but he's mocking you for liking Fairy Tail.
 
See? You have some unimaginable disappointment for a certain shonen manga, maybe it should give you some insight how many users feel about One Piece nowadays lol.
Yes. But there is a big difference. My dissapointment was not conditionned by social pressure and is based on actual solid (or not in this case) technical aspects, which is not the case for 99% of the critics I see for One Piece which are mainly baseless overcooked critics that were already expressed pre-marineford.

:goyea:
 
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