Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1185 Spoilers Discussion

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K!NG HARA$H!MA

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Fog is extremely dangerous for metals in overexposure cause it accelerates the rusting process. Its microscopic water in the air where the usual rain and water cant reach. Its also a kingdom on the sea which adds in salt which eats faster through surfaces cause its an electrolye when dissolved so it also accelerates the reaction between metal and oxygen.
Cool story.

Still doesn't make sense to solely rely on music industry to fund your economy
 

CoC: Color of Clowns

"No... gonna steal it back..."
If this is all about Brook's past, better leave it unrevealed... :PepeJoker:
Franky said he wanted to turn Brook and Usopp into Cyborgs. Vegapunk has organoids, and the ability to make clones of an individual (look at the Stella).

:handsup:

Cyborg Brook will surpass Sanji and Zoro, maybe even Ragnir. Flesh + Bone + Metal + Music, YOHOHOHOHO

I am the Bone of my Blade, because I am a Skeleton... SKULL JOKE
 

CoC: Color of Clowns

"No... gonna steal it back..."
Is Oda sick or something? What’s going on?

Anyways the fog is likely going to be important. It could be tied to the Florian triangle monsters or Imu


What if the fog in the Florian Triangle, is from the ruins of the island the Ancient Oni there used to live on? Their kingdom sunk during the Void Century, leaving only the fog of Imu behind. Like a Miasma, like the Malice/Gloom from BOTW and TOTK in Zelda.

After their kingdom was destroyed, the Ancient Oni were forced to stay in parts of the ocean that are shallow enough for them to wade it, then learned to swim in the area.

The Ancient Oni stay in the fog of the Florian Triangle to hide themselves and prey on the ships that enter.
 

TheAncientCenturion

I will never forgive Oda
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@soupongo @TheAncientCenturion The Jiraiya fandom might actually be the worst fandom in Naruto ngl

They’d actually rather argue that Jiraiya low diffs Orochimaru than admit that the Part 1 statement about Jiraiya being as strong as Itachi and Kisame was a lie or retcon
Which is funny cause Hiruzen says there’s no Konoha Shinobi who can beat Orochimaru, 60 chapters before the statement on Jiraiya.
 
Same with Hiruzen>Minato/Tobirama, they're not really important enough to retcon.
Since the OP chapter is ass I wanna jump in on the Naruto discussions

I’m confused tho are you saying you think Hiruzen > Minato and Tobirama because of some random throwaway statement in part 1 about Hiruzen being the strongest or sum? That man Hiruzen was buns and this was evidenced by their Edo feats.

Hashirama is obviously the strongest Kage bar Naruto, and Minato and Tobirama have infinitely better showings than Hiruzen ever did. Power levels were clearly retconned in part 2, as in part 1 a battle between 3 hokage could genuinely take place on a tile roof just fine lmfao. People were impressed at Hiruzen using tile shiruken 😂 His summoning is ass, his feats are ass — hell, I wouldn’t even put Hiruzen above Orochimaru let alone Minato.
 

TheAncientCenturion

I will never forgive Oda
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Since the OP chapter is ass I wanna jump in on the Naruto discussions

I’m confused tho are you saying you think Hiruzen > Minato and Tobirama because of some random throwaway statement in part 1 about Hiruzen being the strongest or sum? That man Hiruzen was buns and this was evidenced by their Edo feats.

Hashirama is obviously the strongest Kage bar Naruto, and Minato and Tobirama have infinitely better showings than Hiruzen ever did. Power levels were clearly retconned in part 2, as in part 1 a battle between 3 hokage could genuinely take place on a tile roof just fine lmfao. People were impressed at Hiruzen using tile shiruken 😂 His summoning is ass, his feats are ass — hell, I wouldn’t even put Hiruzen above Orochimaru let alone Minato.
Nah Tobirama has the most embarrassing death ever. 20 jonin managed to kill the inventor of both the shadow clone jutsu & flying thunder god teleportation jutsu, while he was springing a trap for the rest of the team to ambush the elite team.

he’s straight ass for that

meanwhile Hiruzen outright states he’s better & will survive that ambush
 
Nah Tobirama has the most embarrassing death ever. 20 jonin managed to kill the inventor of both the shadow clone jutsu & flying thunder god teleportation jutsu, while he was springing a trap for the rest of the team to ambush the elite team.

he’s straight ass for that

meanwhile Hiruzen outright states he’s better & will survive that ambush
1) We don’t know how weakened Tobirama was at this point

2) It wasn’t 20 random jonin, he was up against the Kinkaku force alone —these two already possessed 9 tails chakra and hax sage of the six paths weapons by this point with the support of 20 other jonin who were experienced with teamwork around the brothers.

3) Hiruzen isn’t saying he’s stronger than Tobirama, he’s saying he’s the most accomplished of the guys under Tobirama. His statement about being capable of surviving also means nothing as it’s more than likely cheap bravado.

Tobirama simply outclassed Hiruzen feat-wise in the 4th war. Hell, Tobirama lifted a literal finger whilst under Edo Tensei control and had Orochimaru, EMS Sasuke (two Kage level guys), Jugo and Suigetsu sweating 😂

Ibr tho it’s been a minute since I watched any of this in case my details are off
 
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TheAncientCenturion

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1) We don’t know how weakened Tobirama was at this point

2) It wasn’t 20 random jonin, he was up against the Kinkaku force alone —these two already possessed 9 tails chakra and hax sage of the six paths weapons by this point with the support of 20 other jonin who were experienced with teamwork around the brothers.

3) Hiruzen isn’t saying he’s stronger than Tobirama, he’s saying he’s the most accomplished of the guys under Tobirama. His statement about being capable of surviving also means nothing as it’s more than likely cheap bravado.

Tobirama simply outclassed Hiruzen feat-wise in the 4th war. Hell, Tobirama lifted a literal finger whilst under Edo Tensei control and had Orochimaru, EMS Sasuke (two Kage level guys), Jugo and Suigetsu sweating 😂

Ibr tho it’s been a minute since I watched any of this in case my details are off
1. Nobody was weakened, we don’t have evidence of that.

2. The same guys Darui took on, beat one of them then Ino, Shikamaru & Choji took on?

the guy with teleportation & shadow clones being killed by these guys and their weaker jonin subordinates is very funny.

3. Hiruzen never boasts though, he’s always been modest. He’s the most accomplished shinobi among them says a lot.

Tobirama does outclass Edo Hiruzen, revived as an old man who has limits to what he could do, as revealed in his fight with Orochimaru.
 
1. Nobody was weakened, we don’t have evidence of that.

2. The same guys Darui took on, beat one of them then Ino, Shikamaru & Choji took on?

the guy with teleportation & shadow clones being killed by these guys and their weaker jonin subordinates is very funny.

3. Hiruzen never boasts though, he’s always been modest. He’s the most accomplished shinobi among them says a lot.

Tobirama does outclass Edo Hiruzen, revived as an old man who has limits to what he could do, as revealed in his fight with Orochimaru.
Hiruzen was saying he’s the most accomplished among Tobirama’s disciples. Tobirama himself wasn’t included in that statement. No one in the group even considered the possibility of Tobirama, the Hokage, being the sacrificial lamb
 
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