Speculations There's too much rape in One Piece

#22
That's kind of the issue I have with it. Honestly, rape is bad, but I'm wondering why it's a main focus? There are other evil things they could be doing instead of these soap opera relationship dramas.

Like idk... Enslaving thousands of people and forcing them to make elevators work through sheer physical labor using pulleys and drawstrings.










Oda already did that

The Ternryubito are just reproducing the worst of mankind.
 
#23
The problem with invoking the real world is that this is a fantasy that he controls entirely. If he omitted rape entirely, it wouldn't make the series more or less realistic than it already was from the beginning.

You can tell that obviously, the abusers are intended to be the very worst people. But Oda isn't calling anyone out... none of the abusers are held accountable. We don't even know who did that to Ginney.

And as for gags, the "panties" gag is not a good look for a protagonist in the context of what happens. Brook is a creep, but it's okay because he doesn't touch them lol. Okay Japan
I mean they'll all eventually take a fist to the face

But I agree on the gags, those are creepy but have always been there
 
#24
The problem with invoking the real world is that this is a fantasy that he controls entirely. If he omitted rape entirely, it wouldn't make the series more or less realistic than it already was from the beginning.

You can tell that obviously, the abusers are intended to be the very worst people. But Oda isn't calling anyone out... none of the abusers are held accountable. We don't even know who did that to Ginney.

And as for gags, the "panties" gag is not a good look for a protagonist in the context of what happens. Brook is a creep, but it's okay because he doesn't touch them lol. Okay Japan
to be fair, charlos gets his shit punched in constantly
and i'm certain shamrock (who's practically confirmed as the person who raped ginny) will also get his shit punched in eventually
there's also big mom who's a serial rapist and she was beat up by kidd and law
 

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#26
The problem with invoking the real world is that this is a fantasy that he controls entirely. If he omitted rape entirely, it wouldn't make the series more or less realistic than it already was from the beginning.

You can tell that obviously, the abusers are intended to be the very worst people. But Oda isn't calling anyone out... none of the abusers are held accountable. We don't even know who did that to Ginney.

And as for gags, the "panties" gag is not a good look for a protagonist in the context of what happens. Brook is a creep, but it's okay because he doesn't touch them lol. Okay Japan
The bad guys are human traffickers, omitting the rape is just downplaying the reality of slavery. Oda is showing slavery causes rape.

"None of the abusers are held accountable."



Incorrect, the Straw Hat Pirates, Vegapunks, and Kuma's efforts to save Bonney resulted in both her freedom and the direct death of one of her greatest abusers, Saint Jaygarcia Saturn.

I'm certain the rest of the abusers will get punched. Charlos was the first, and now Luffy is punching the King of them in the face.

Yeah, the Straw Hats are pirates, they're criminals, not perfect people. They have flaws. Not excusing Brook, I would tell him off if I saw him asking a woman to flash him.

But, is it funny to watch from a distance? Yeah. I have enough bullshit in my life to get morally outraged over a walking skeleton wanting to look at women's underwear.

Ya'll can keep your outrage like a Dragonite against Mega Floette

There are REAL issues in this series like Oda going "I'm learning to draw ass for this arc" and then drawing Bonney's behind in compromising positions before revealing she's 12, and women characters getting shafted in general.

But Brook's panty gag is NOT the problem here, in a series where the main character has helped freed a gaggle of notorious villains from the worst prison in the world, and the most protected character on the crew is an archeologist who helped cause a civil war, coup de ta, and drought in a foreign country to find the Rio Poneglyph.

Luffy and Robin have at least indirectly caused the murders of THOUSANDS through Luffy: Releasing Impel Down Prisoner, and Robin: Alabasta.

Brook is BY FAR one of the most upstanding Straw Hats. Is he a pervert? Yes. But, he clearly comes from an era where it is NOT a crime to ask a lady is she will show him his panties, or, he would not be asking.

Still needs to stop and get punched for it when he does it, BUT, he is not a criminal.

Hit him harder Nami.

The only four TRULY INNOCENT Straw Hats are Usopp, Chopper, Vivi, and Karoo. Everyone else on the crew is a freak/monster in some way, and I love em for it (except the bad shit).

Luffy is a hero and very good natured, but, he has maintained he is a pirate and will do evil things to save his friends, like release people like Crocodile, who he KNOWS IS AN EVIL MASTERMIND CAPABLE OF DESTROYING ENTIRE COUNTRIES WITHOUT THE GOVERNMENT FINDING OUT.

Brook is one of the best Straw Hats morally, BUT HE AIN'T INNOCENT, YOHOHOHOHOHO
 
#27
The bad guys are human traffickers, omitting the rape is just downplaying the reality of slavery. Oda is showing slavery causes rape.
Therefore, the implication is sufficient. If someone posts Saturn dying as an example even though we can't name anyone he's raped, this proves the point.

"None of the abusers are held accountable."
You misunderstood the difference between abusers and THE abusers. I specifically mean the fathers of Bonney and Shuri, the ones who committed the act. Additionally, the scene you posted has Saturn being executed for failure, not for his transgressions.


Yeah, the Straw Hats are pirates, they're criminals, not perfect people. They have flaws. Not excusing Brook, I would tell him off if I saw him asking a woman to flash him.
This example is using extremes; it's not a binary with either a serious issue or perfection. I'm flawed because I'm always showing up late. Luffy is flawed because he's unwilling to learn more about him the world around him. Zoro is flawed because he lacks self awareness of his cardinal orientation. Usopp is flawed because he compulsively lies.

These things aren't sexual harassment, lol
But, is it funny to watch from a distance? Yeah. I have enough bullshit in my life to get morally outraged over a walking skeleton wanting to look at women's underwear.
And this whole tangent is a straw man. I have every volume so at the least I'm $1,000 invested. I read the chapters every time and spend hours discussing. There's no moral panic or outrage, I'm simply pointing out a problem in the narrative.
 
#29
The writer wants you to think the Celestial Dragons rape a lot. It's a plot device he likes to use, now.

It's uncomfortable that it's expected to happen regularly. Garling hiding a kid was one thing, but now that the author has suggested they go through convoluted plots to do it beyond what was assumed with the slavery stuff is a bit crazy.

Before Ginny, there was only assumptions about rape and a single instance of it doesn't constitute a pattern.

Garling didn't rape, but he killed the woman and tried to take the kids. A similar thing happens to Candel in Shuri's case, but Candel was raped.

The writer has told us to "read between the lines" as adult readers. This means we should be assuming Doflamingo raped Viola too now that a pattern has developed. The same goes for Nefertari Lili and Imu.

That's 4 cases of it. Viola, Ginny, Candel, and Lili.

At this point, it could be said that the Devil Fruits and Haki are flimsy pretexts for sexual violence.
Hancock was raped by evil St. Roswald
 
#30
to be fair, charlos gets his shit punched in constantly
and i'm certain shamrock (who's practically confirmed as the person who raped ginny) will also get his shit punched in eventually
there's also big mom who's a serial rapist and she was beat up by kidd and law
The thing is that Kidd and Law would have done that regardless and I don't believe the former would even care if someone brought it up. Most of these people will take Ls but that's another matter. Rocks took the biggest L of any notable pirate and he was honestly the best of them.
 
#34
By the way think at all the times Oda avoided to potray rape or attempted rape.

During the God Valley flashback,when Shakky goes to live in Hachinosu,where some of the most rude and evil people in the world lived...in a realistic story Shakky would risk to be raped everyday.

True,she could probably enjoy Xebec's protection,but some idiot would have tried anyway

In the story,instead,Oda potrays the Hachinosu pirates acting like her slaves who act simpy with her. They seem like the seven dwarfs with Snow White!

And even now in this Brook flashback,even if Candelle was really raped,he chose to not show or mention any of it,just letting the reader suppose that.

So there is definitely not "too much rape" in One Piece.

It reminds me of when people were criticizing Game of Thrones calling it Rape of Thrones
 
#35
The writer wants you to think the Celestial Dragons rape a lot. It's a plot device he likes to use, now.

It's uncomfortable that it's expected to happen regularly. Garling hiding a kid was one thing, but now that the author has suggested they go through convoluted plots to do it beyond what was assumed with the slavery stuff is a bit crazy.

Before Ginny, there was only assumptions about rape and a single instance of it doesn't constitute a pattern.

Garling didn't rape, but he killed the woman and tried to take the kids. A similar thing happens to Candel in Shuri's case, but Candel was raped.

The writer has told us to "read between the lines" as adult readers. This means we should be assuming Doflamingo raped Viola too now that a pattern has developed. The same goes for Nefertari Lili and Imu.

That's 4 cases of it. Viola, Ginny, Candel, and Lili.

At this point, it could be said that the Devil Fruits and Haki are flimsy pretexts for sexual violence.
Viola wasn't raped. We don't know about Candel. And who the fuck is Lili?
 
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