Spoiler One Piece Chapter Spoiler 1187 Spoilers Discussion

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At this point it almost has to involve coc... Zoro is still progressing in that route even now.
Yeah but it's Zoro fans that want it. Mihawk has shown no proficiency until now, the burden of proof. I personally don't believe anymore in OP's powerscaling due to how lazy and inconsistent Oda is in powerscaling. Mihawk can be stronger than Shanks, Zoro can be stronger than Luffy, and it won't affect anything to me lol
 
What kind of king do characters like Katakuri want to become?
It was always an arbitrary distinction
Tbf yeah it is, but if Gaban's reflection is that he told Sanji to want to be a king then it holds up

Lol dumbass it was a misclick and I said it after I voted. If you're gonna stalk me then at least stalk me properly.

@Cruxroux what happened to our bet on Sanji unlocking ACoC btw lmfaoo?
Not the misclick 😭 dude this is an even bigger L than you had in the first place
 
Bro’s putting a statute of limitations on the manga as if anything changed since then 💀

In fact, Law went onto fight Yonkos after this and Sanji went onto fight Queen 😂
Huh where did i put a limitation? I said post on even older one! nothing changed clearly since punk hazard, you are very smart

sabo 100% coc wanna bet account deletion?
 
There was at least one guy, @Shiroyru who called Sanji specifically unlocking it in Elbaf years ago.

There's a difference in the two predictions, but there's also a difference in Sanji. Just speaking for myself, the reason I was against the idea was because his behavior didn't signify it and he lacked the desire to become a king. If you change those two things then of course the prediction wouldn't be the same
I legit don't know where are you trying to going with this yapping.

I always had Sanji unlocking CoC against the Gorosei or BBP commander, not against the Holy Knights, that's why i said it unlikely, but never doubted Sanji is a conqueror.

Stop talking nonsense and understand for once that the point here is not which arc Sanji would unlock CoC, it's that there were people saying Sanji would never get CoC, not a conqueror and no ambition. People who deliberately made fun of Sanji not having CoC while Luffy and Zoro had. Jesus christ, it's not like haven't discussed "Sanji Conqueror haki" every single month.

You're so butt hurt about the mockering, that you legit searched for old posts of mine for try to use it against me lol, search a single post of mine saying Sanji has no ambition or Sanji will never get CoC.
 
Yeah but it's Zoro fans that want it. Mihawk has shown no proficiency until now, the burden of proof. I personally don't believe anymore in OP's powerscaling due to how lazy and inconsistent Oda is in powerscaling. Mihawk can be stronger than Shanks, Zoro can be stronger than Luffy, and it won't affect anything to me lol
Powerscaling is really worse on OP.
People or fan can claim Luffy can one shot Zoro or Sanji.
But Oda will choose otherwise.
Luffy also literally get beaten multiple times even got killed as some point to become the stronger one in span of hour.
Then shown he is stronger in next arc, but when there is sum antagonist who is weaker than the last arc antagonist, Luffy still lose or stalled.
Its just Oda doing whatever he wants
 
Wish it could.
But Oda already established Sanji as Flame / Sciene user.
' Warrior of Science '.
No Haki upgrade for 500+ manga chapters post time skip.
Not even in the arc which was dedicated to him.

This is precisely what you call retcon and forcing someone down our throat. I don't like oden at all, but doesn't chnage the fact how he was forced down our throat in the manga.

Y'all can't even admit what's bad here.
Calling Sanji "Warrior of science" is retarded. Did you even read the manga chapter? Sanji clearly states that soldier of science is version of himself who loses all the feelings and has all germa abilities. Sanji rejects this version. The dilemma on the chaper was him choosing his human side over being "Warrior of science". I can't post images currently but please read the chapter again.
 
The difference is that BB isn’t supposed to be a character who’s behind Luffy or growing his haki. Law, Sabo, Sanji all of these characters are those that are still growing their haki. Blackbeard at this point is purely juicing himself with devil fruits seemingly because his physical strength and haki has hit the wall.

And you can’t say we haven’t touched BBs flashback when we saw his history at god valley. You think odas saving it, I think odas just going a different route to separate Blackbeard
Has his physical strength and haki hit a wall?

I'm not sure this is a fact? Shanks told us that bb will is the top and that he will keep striving for the top. Has BB reached the top yet? No he has not He is still aiming for the world a goal that he has not yet achieved. Sure bb is juicing himself with dfs i don't disagree there, but to say his haki has hit a wall when the guys will and ambition went from hiding behind wb shadow,to killing him, and currently he is still striving upward to even higher goals i dont see how his haki/ambition has hit any walls as you say.

For instance just as a comparison mihawk who achieved his wss title,black blade, and sits at the top of all swordsmen with no one to challenge him. The guy who said he would sit at the top and just wants a peaceful life until zoro comes This guy has hit said wall that you speak of imo but BB wall has no been hit at all he is still striving for higher goals.

Yes we saw his history at god valley but for whats its worth thats a lot of trauma for the guy its not all his. The importance was on his pops at the time not him having a coc haki moment there lol.
 
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