Spoiler One Piece Chapter Spoiler 1189 Spoilers Discussion
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He is too big in base so imagine hybrid...
Imu is dog walking him precisely because he is already too big and slow.
Imu gained size to make Loki look better otherwise he would be helpless against small Imu. None of these swords require Imu to grow in order to trash Loki, with time you will get it...
Yamato also had extended fight with Kaido while Zoro didnt, we all know who the stronger one was.
Loki needed Imu to space out to do anything otherwise he wouldnt achieve even a drop of blood.
Let Imu space out against Zoro's attacks.
He is too big in base so imagine hybrid...
Imu is dog walking him precisely because he is already too big and slow.
Imu gained size to make Loki look better otherwise he would be helpless against small Imu. None of these swords require Imu to grow in order to trash Loki, with time you will get it...
Yamato also had extended fight with Kaido while Zoro didnt, we all know who the stronger one was.
Loki needed Imu to space out to do anything otherwise he wouldnt achieve even a drop of blood.
Let Imu space out against Zoro's attacks.
Gin beat Sanji's ass
So you agree, Jabura > Absalom
Okay, you got me. Sanji didn't have a qualified win in that arc.
Ohm didn't have the breath of all things and couldn't bring Zoro close to defeat. Daz would have beaten his ass worse than anything he did to Zoro.
All you have to say is that the HK > the All Stars. No need to do this to yourself lol
So you agree, Jabura > Absalom
Okay, you got me. Sanji didn't have a qualified win in that arc.
Ohm didn't have the breath of all things and couldn't bring Zoro close to defeat. Daz would have beaten his ass worse than anything he did to Zoro.
All you have to say is that the HK > the All Stars. No need to do this to yourself lol
Did you see MarcoGrandfleet Twitter?
He translated it altho it might be not accurate or clean.
https://x.com/MarcoGrandFleet/status/2080587279551095060#m
He translated it altho it might be not accurate or clean.
https://x.com/MarcoGrandFleet/status/2080587279551095060#m
I was so sure Longinus was going to be steel Omen as how Imu did Zoro..
If we look at Sommers' Sword of Wrath they are actual flames.. Where as Killingham's Longinus, its more some type of seaweed form, definitely not normal flames..
Well in Sommers' case Omen is affecting his Blade's Hamon, and it's not for Longinus, it's staying straight, you will say it's because it's a spear.. I don't think so, it's the type of Sword, their inherent trait.. Sword of Wrath is more compatible with cursed type Blades like Enma and Sandai Kitetsu.. Longinus is more like Ame no Habakiri or Wado Ichimonji.. It does seems to be Good vs Bad Blades, Darkness vs Light, which is interesting because that's also the case with Killingham's devil fruit.. Killingham even though under Imu, might be a Good and Honorable Saint Celestial Dragon as weird as it may be?..
I'm not saying this to go at Sanji fans but fundamentally..
Gram >> Longinus..
If we look at Sommers' Sword of Wrath they are actual flames.. Where as Killingham's Longinus, its more some type of seaweed form, definitely not normal flames..
Well in Sommers' case Omen is affecting his Blade's Hamon, and it's not for Longinus, it's staying straight, you will say it's because it's a spear.. I don't think so, it's the type of Sword, their inherent trait.. Sword of Wrath is more compatible with cursed type Blades like Enma and Sandai Kitetsu.. Longinus is more like Ame no Habakiri or Wado Ichimonji.. It does seems to be Good vs Bad Blades, Darkness vs Light, which is interesting because that's also the case with Killingham's devil fruit.. Killingham even though under Imu, might be a Good and Honorable Saint Celestial Dragon as weird as it may be?..
I'm not saying this to go at Sanji fans but fundamentally..
Gram >> Longinus..
Heavily disagree. At this point, the grading is based on the potential and strength of the blade from the way Oda is grading swords. He's not making any distinction
Only top tiers have wielded Supreme grades, they are a symbol of power more than anything else
Yoru is called the "strongest" sword in the world not the "most durable" sword in the world
Enma is Great Grade cuz it has a property of using haki to reinforce itself. Kozaburo clearly spoke of it thru its cursed strength not its durability
And then you can increase the rank of a sword by turning it black, which is obv meant to be a very special feat for CoA
Kaido kanabo is legendary cuz it was wielded by him, a top tier. Oda spoke nothing about its durability or not breaking while being used by Kaido
Fujitora's cane stick turned out to be a Saijo cuz he's simply an ADMIRAL and a Great Grade would be disgraceful on him
So yes I believe swords like Vohu Bohu Gram Longinus will remain ungraded, while Muramasa can be graded as an original Saijo that was lost to existence or some shit. That will put them in the same class anyways cuz of their status as OG 19 swords while Muramasa association with Saijos, but at the same time not be capped by the portrayal of one of the 12 Saijo "beneath Yoru" (since they are def not found in the book of swords that Tashigi had)
It's similar to why Kikoku is ungraded, Oda telling us Law is growing with his sword and will eventually reach some level, maybe 12 Saijo, maybe further. It is painfully clear based on the way Oda keeps shit vague to maintain some semblance of hype while saving face for other things
Only top tiers have wielded Supreme grades, they are a symbol of power more than anything else
Yoru is called the "strongest" sword in the world not the "most durable" sword in the world
Enma is Great Grade cuz it has a property of using haki to reinforce itself. Kozaburo clearly spoke of it thru its cursed strength not its durability
And then you can increase the rank of a sword by turning it black, which is obv meant to be a very special feat for CoA
Kaido kanabo is legendary cuz it was wielded by him, a top tier. Oda spoke nothing about its durability or not breaking while being used by Kaido
Fujitora's cane stick turned out to be a Saijo cuz he's simply an ADMIRAL and a Great Grade would be disgraceful on him
So yes I believe swords like Vohu Bohu Gram Longinus will remain ungraded, while Muramasa can be graded as an original Saijo that was lost to existence or some shit. That will put them in the same class anyways cuz of their status as OG 19 swords while Muramasa association with Saijos, but at the same time not be capped by the portrayal of one of the 12 Saijo "beneath Yoru" (since they are def not found in the book of swords that Tashigi had)
It's similar to why Kikoku is ungraded, Oda telling us Law is growing with his sword and will eventually reach some level, maybe 12 Saijo, maybe further. It is painfully clear based on the way Oda keeps shit vague to maintain some semblance of hype while saving face for other things
What's even crazier is when we realise that Yoru dwarfs all these swords and it isnt even a contest. 
So, for myself, I explain their PU by being enabled by Imu's own powers. (yes, imu neg diffed condom with probably 33,3HP)
I still believe Enma would heavily wreck a full HP kaido if he tried to wield it. A sword such as Gram would probably kill him.
Getting to Mihawk, he turned his sword black by himself. The only other person alongside Ryuuma. Those swords might be fancy and cursed and dangerous. But Yoru, or any other BB, in the hands of its creator will be an entirely different level. But only because of their individual wielder.
It still stands to debate if imu kinda absorbed the haki/powers of those 19 Kings (the ability of absorbing powers and lending powers just fit too well to dismiss that theory).
Maybe that was what you were talking about anyway.
yc1+ is just fanmade up term too, it doesn't exist anywhere in the manga.
No matter how you want to say it, Koh Dragon Damnation is confortably above yc1 level, the level of one of the very strongest, the level above commender.
And Super Sommer stopped it with ease.
Proving he is confortably at the level above the level above yc1.
Oda cant be more clear.
No matter how you want to say it, Koh Dragon Damnation is confortably above yc1 level, the level of one of the very strongest, the level above commender.
And Super Sommer stopped it with ease.
Proving he is confortably at the level above the level above yc1.
Oda cant be more clear.
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