white ain't no race :smart::smart:
Exactly, and it is actually a very advanced concept in materialism and anti-racism.

White ain't a race, it's a STATUS of domination within white supremacy. Just like BLack ain't a race either. It's a status of subjugation within white supremacy


So every single PoC in All of France could do it to every single white Woman in France and you wouldn't consider it racism?
Exactly
 
@Apollo i told you Trump was gonna escalate things
Too many of you forget that he's pretty much expecting to die soon when analysing his behaviour
Its his only choice to escalate. Iran has a firm grip on the Strait of Hormuz, and the MoU was going to fail with all the additional requirements on its clauses or the non-adherence (like the Lebanon front).

And now the Strait of Bab el-mandeb has trouble after Houthis announced a blockade on Saudi ports all because of a retarded symbolic strike on Yemen's airport.
 
Zunnuj is used in arab countries more often than The N Word ever was tbh
Yes maybe. Slavery wasn't only made by white people. For instance rappers from arab descent using the n-word and spreading its use by a whole lotta people wasn't the smartest move they could make. Some consider it alright and other people refuse it.

Rappers should only represent themselves and not pretend to be the ambassadors of anything but their sponsors.

i mean sure if we want to compare societies with a couple percent foreign citizen among their population to societies with 20 % foreign citizen among their population, i guess?!

but that is the actual ridiculous take here
Populations have always moved. I don't see what's ridiculous about it ? Or even how your made up percentages of the differences based on what methodology.

We have known in history episodes of way more violence among the autochtones in the west than we do nowadays with such or such immigrants.

while that definitely is an issue, the problem lies with the compatibility of different cultures or the lack thereof. and some cultures work better together than others.
There are no such thing as incompatible cultures. Or at least give me examples.

but moving your society more and more to the progressive side of things (especially with things like gay marriage and transgenderism for example) but then importing shitloads of people that think this shit should be illegal (sometimes to the point of death sentence btw) is likely not going to work out well in the long run. . . .
You're implying that intolerance is imported and that homophobia and hatred towards transgenders doesn't already exist in the West

i dont like her recent development, but im still going to quote ayan hirsi ali on this:
"tolerance of intolerance is cowardice"
I don't even know why I get this quote. But this is a simplification in very few words as quotes usually are. Yes it's catchy and all and can be true. But ultimately this depends on the factual thoughts and/or deeds of such and such things that are considered tolerant and/or intolerant by such and such people.
 
Justice in France just used the term "attack against the white race and the french nation" to condamn an author of murder against a white boy. People don't understand just how much of level of fascistic fucked upry this is. So please, if you have question about white supremacy, I BEG YOU, ask them. Any small win is still a win.
 
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There are no such thing as incompatible cultures. Or at least give me examples.
Cultures which enshrine free speech as a right would be incompatible with cultures that believe in blasphemy laws for one.

You're implying that intolerance is imported and that homophobia and hatred towards transgenders doesn't already exist in the West
It does exist, but just because it exists does not mean it's not more prevalent in certain communities, for example:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...ch-ethnic-minorities-lifestyles-a8355016.html

"The statistics showed that in 2010, 58 per cent of black and south Asian 16- to 44-year-olds believed same-sex relationships were always wrong - down from 67 per cent in 1990.

That compared with just 12 per cent among white respondents in the same age group (down from 46 per cent 20 years earlier)."

Let me guess, the higher percentage and lessened drop (9% as opposed to 34%) is just an issue of white supremacy and western imperialism? :ClownStare:

Discriminating against someone and denying them basic necessities because of their race isn't racism
:smart:

The confederates among others would love this.
Who is advocating for this wholesale, Van? I believe people who are anti-migration have demonstrated it's not even about the race specifically. I for one would not really be happy regardless of the race if they were simply trying to use my homeland as an economic zone.
 
They say that when you see these kind of things everyday, your empathy fades aways. I've been seeing these images daily for two years... All this is doing to me is getting me more and more angry...



which enshrine free speech as a right would be incompatible with cultures that believe in blasphemy laws
And western cultures are which one?
 
I, as a non rich man, don't want immigrants who come to my country because they're too poor and only want welfare and whatnot ! So I'll vote for policies that'll make me poorer which will make my life more difficult but at least this will keep the migrants away.

Imagine hating other humans so much that you hate yourself even more :kobeha::kobeha:

Cultures which enshrine free speech as a right would be incompatible with cultures that believe in blasphemy laws for one.
What do you propose exactly ? Being xenophobic against entire populations because their citizens lived under religious dictatorships ? it's almost like people are fleeing these religious dictatorships for a reason...


It does exist, but just because it exists does not mean it's not more prevalent in certain communities, for example:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...ch-ethnic-minorities-lifestyles-a8355016.html

"The statistics showed that in 2010, 58 per cent of black and south Asian 16- to 44-year-olds believed same-sex relationships were always wrong - down from 67 per cent in 1990.

That compared with just 12 per cent among white respondents in the same age group (down from 46 per cent 20 years earlier)."

Let me guess, the higher percentage and lessened drop (9% as opposed to 34%) is just an issue of white supremacy and western imperialism? :ClownStare:
Quoting an article titled "Britain reaching 'peak acceptance' for LGBT rights" by cherry-picking two sentences which ends up arguing in favour of my main argument....

My main argument is that multiculturalism is how the world has always worked and that we're never reaching a society with no trouble and full peace & love. This is how the world is and we'll have to deal with it. Multiculturalism works pretty well.

I don't know what solutions you guys are calling for your so-called problems of "broken society".
 
What do you propose exactly ? Being xenophobic against entire populations because their citizens lived under religious dictatorships ? it's almost like people are fleeing these religious dictatorships for a reason...
I have genuine sympathy for individuals who are genuinely fleeing religious persecution. However, my empathy does not extend to those who claim to be fleeing persecution only to remain adherents to the very ideology they claim is the cause of their flight. Statistics on this are hard to capture, for many studies tend to identify anyone from middle-eastern regions as Muslim. However, anecdotal experience from living in areas with high areas of migrant redistribution (into nearby hotels), the majority of these appear to still uphold these values.

You should also consider that just because I brought up the antithetical relationship between religious blasphemy laws and free speech, a lot of migration actually happens from Africa. A lot of these illegal migrants are Christian. As such, consider my example but one of many different examples.

What do I propose? I simply want to stem migration for a time and deport individuals who have committed crimes or have links to terrorism. For example, the Manchester Arena bomber had direct links to terrorist organisations.

My beliefs are not just about Middle-Easterners or Africans. I feel the same way towards Europeans, individuals from the Americas, and East Asia in regards to deportations and migration. My only exception (and this applies to all), is when somebody is marrying a British native, as that offers a better pathway for integration.

I will also state that I welcome people who genuinely admire the British way of life and wish to live that way among us. This happened more in the past, and I know many older immigrants who I am personally friends with. Ironically, many of these individuals hold even stronger views that I on this matter.

But some people have called that ladder-pulling already. I call it, as Logiko might, having a better understanding of the people as they've lived with them before.

I, as a non rich man, don't want immigrants who come to my country because they're too poor and only want welfare and whatnot ! So I'll vote for policies that'll make me poorer which will make my life more difficult but at least this will keep the migrants away.
:StrawMan:

My main argument is that multiculturalism is how the world has always worked
Instead of simply arguing, I want to understand your view. Can you offer me your definition of multiculturalism? There may be a disconnect in our viewpoint on this.

Can you define it and explain how it has always existed with historical examples?

Fuck you, and you, and you
I hate your friends and they hate me too
Even his friends hate him. :mihanha:


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And western cultures are which one?
In this limited view - blasphemy laws are common in Islamic countries. Western nations, such as America, have free speech laws.
 
Can you offer me your definition of multiculturalism?
Basically
"Athens and Sparta's differences is the same as people from different continent living together"

On a more serious side, modern Multiculturalism doesn't have the "pragmatism" of say East African co operations between Herding Nilo Saharans and Yams obsessed Bantus where there a lot of unspoken rules, modern Multiculturalism pretty much treats cultural differences as "Halloween costumes" and acts shocked when Minorities form blocks instead of singing Bombaya
 
modern Multiculturalism pretty much treats cultural differences as "Halloween costumes and acts shocked when Minorities form blocks instead of singing Bombaya"
Agreed. It's insulting to all parties.

Basically
"Athens and Sparta's differences is the same as people from different continent living together"
:milaugh:

On a more serious side, modern Multiculturalism doesn't have the "pragmatism" of say East African co operations between Herding Nilo Saharans and Yams obsessed Bantus
I'll look into this.
 
Free as in "the speech that only benefit the ruling class"? In which case yes, the west has "free" speech laws.
Bro, your behaviour would get you killed in a society that lacked free speech and had a truly tyrannical government. The fact you can freely speak about revolution, overthrowing the current order, and make counter-culture statements is evidence of this.
 
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