Powers & Abilities The Wildfire invades Totland

[HA001]

This is irrelevant, these numbers are inconclusive and speculative, anyway the gap between every yc and an top tier is big and saw yesterday that beating an yc-high tier is still nothing when it comes to top tiers(even for low top tiers)

So new chapter just debuked what folks like @ShishioIsBack @Cruxroux @nik87 @HA001 @Blazing Lion been saying that current zoro is top tier and that King is the strongest high tier, and dragon dramnation attack ain't defeating a top tier.

Now answering the dumb question thread, the moment King enters Totoland, he gets bitchslaped by BMPs, i would say Kata even with some Cracker help folds King.

A mere commander ain't soloing an Yonkou crew

How was it debunked you clown
They using the same power imu was using vs loki

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

da gave few hints about the stance with the Lunarians. They were wiped out and the WG sure knew their real weakness - a reason why King was constantly changing between flame on/off mode even when Zoro's attacks scared him.
Headcanon is it to claim King would walk through a nuke which evaporates entire islands - because he has shown nothing comparable to that

Yes. We know they aren’t actually invincible because they’re on the verge of extinction. The reason why/how hasn’t been revealed and that doesn’t mean every big attack randomly bypasses their abilities.

you’re the one who is stuck on mothers flame. I already said there’s a good chance it’s among the exceptions we’ll find out in the future. Arguing with yourself here.

Wait, Blazing Bagua can potentially overpower & smother King's flames but not an attack which significantly outperforms Blazing Bagua in destructive capacity?

does Lightning smother flames? It’s a different attack. Ace wouldn’t have had his hand burnt if he wasn’t fisted by magma.

Again, how can you even picture King walking Thorheim off if he gets immediately crushed into the sea just from the sheer overwhelming force of a nuke which would even evaporate the island he's standing on?

You know this attack isn’t on par with the ancient weapons lol, it’s big and powerful but you’re making it sound like it is Pluton or mothers flame

until we get to exceptions—which won’t be based on the popularity of a new powerful character—flame on defense will keep King unharmed from any damage unless the attack can remove those flames too.

 

[L57]

Yes. We know they aren’t actually invincible because they’re on the verge of extinction. The reason why/how hasn’t been revealed and that doesn’t mean every big attack randomly bypasses their abilities.

we know why tho
its bcs of imu and his op omen hax

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

we know why tho
its bcs of imu and his op omen hax

We know who, the how is still a mystery.

 

[L57]

We know who, the how is still a mystery.

betrayal maybe

 

[John Akainu]

I mean yes, everything about their health status is speculative.

if you don’t want me answering a question about it don’t ask me? You’re the one who laid out a bunch of random claims at my feet.

I didn't asked nothing for you, just don't say like everybody agreed with this because that's not the case, the hundreds pages in the spoiler/battledome don't lie.

way. Throw someone in like Flambé and that can be a fight changer.

I’m not sure if this thread means all at once or gauntlet style. If it’s the former ofc that’s a stomp. But if it’s the latter, King bulldozes the BMPs since none of them have any good counters to his abilities. Smoothie is maybe the only one who can but that’s up for debate and she doesn’t have any actual combat feats.

Nik literally means 1v20 because he's convict nobody can defeat King cause his lunarian defense lolz, it's not a gauntlet

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

betrayal maybe

The only red line is barren of life apparently. I think the war there was probably devastating.

betrayal is possible cause Oda loved that man trope but I still think it probably made the redline incapable of producing life

 

[Ven437]

Pure and utter cope. Shanks utterly annihilated the kid pirates. It was such a ridiculous stomp, there is zero room of argument here. There is only one single conclusion out of that fight:

Shanks eclipses Kid and Killer by a landslide.

You can take away the railgun but the outcome is the same. It was extreme clear portrayal

There was an explosion due to the railgun that was highlighted. Undeniable. That clearly did damage to Kidd and Killer as well

 

[Sentinel]

Yes. We know they aren’t actually invincible because they’re on the verge of extinction. The reason why/how hasn’t been revealed and that doesn’t mean every big attack randomly bypasses their abilities.

you’re the one who is stuck on mothers flame. I already said there’s a good chance it’s among the exceptions we’ll find out in the future. Arguing with yourself here.

So we know there's the "BUUUUT..." in their invincibility status! That's why I keep the stance that they're not tanking every single attack only because it was mentioned they're near invincible. I always treat such statements with caution in all of fiction bro. One Piece is no exception.

No, this is about Thorheim, not Mother Flame. Mother Flame was just an example to prove my point and you agreed. I mean, it isn't just busting an island, it caused world-wide earthquakes AND tsunamis. Ofc this is on a completely different level than Thorheim.

You know this attack isn’t on par with the ancient weapons lol, it’s big and powerful but you’re making it sound like it is Pluton or mothers flame

See above.
It's not on par with Ancient Weapons but it's still nuking islands - enough to kill a single random Lunarian.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

didn't asked nothing for you, just don't say like everybody agreed with this because that's not the case, the hundreds pages in the spoiler/battledome don't lie.

The only people who agreed with your claims were Yonko fans though. Don’t put random ass arguments at me and posture it like I had those views if you don’t want me to reply.

Nik literally means 1v20 because he's convict nobody can defeat King cause his lunarian defense lolz, it's not a gauntlet

Nik also thought Zoro defeated Mihawk in the timeskip for a long time. I’m not sure why you’re taking him seriously

 

[John Akainu]

Another power ranger girly retard
When BMPs conjure up Gram equivalent they can hope to damage/beat King, before that they all serve as acupuncture pins.

You can't powerscale pal, cause you believe too much in King's defense.

How was it debunked you clown
They using the same power imu was using vs loki

You know it's not the same thing bro, and Sommers treated DD like comic relief, Current zoro is not a top tier and King never were that strong, there's no room to cope.

 

[HA001]

You can't powerscale pal, cause you believe too much in King's defense.

You know it's not the same thing bro, and Sommers treated DD like comic relief, Current zoro is not a top tier and King never were that strong, there's no room to cope.

Its imus omen
Its imus maki
Its imus power the only reason they can use the legendary weapons

You have no argument
Kaido or meme aint doing shit to sommers gram either

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

So we know there's the "BUUUUT..." in their invincibility status! That's why I keep the stance that they're not tanking every single attack only because it was mentioned they're near invincible. I always treat such statements with caution in all of fiction bro. One Piece is no exception.

We know there’s an exploit for it because they’re extinct. Whether that means getting by their defenses with force or finding a way to get around it (I.e. a weakness or exploit that makes them vulnerable) is up for speculation.

we do not know how they went extinct just that they aren’t all powerful gods who are literally invincible. We know this because King lost in the manga.

It’s whether or not you think something, without any evidence, can get through their defenses. Not bypass it, outright destroy them and it.

that’s unfounded and headcanon.

See above.
It's not on par with Ancient Weapons but it's still nuking islands - enough to kill a single random Lunarian

its not a nuke and it can kill a Lunarian if their flame isn’t on or if the attack can douse/put out their flames.

We have no reason to believe it invalidates their defenses

 

[swarna]

There was an explosion due to the railgun that was highlighted. Undeniable. That clearly did damage to Kidd and Killer as well

What are your thoughts on bombs and Big Mom?

 

[Blazing Lion]

You can't powerscale pal, cause you believe too much in King's defense.

You know it's not the same thing bro, and Sommers treated DD like comic relief, Current zoro is not a top tier and King never were that strong, there's no room to cope.

Well the in verse highest IQ guy also believed too much in Kings defense and gave that to his final creations.

 

[John Akainu]

The only people who agreed with your claims were Yonko fans though. Don’t put random ass arguments at me and posture it like I had those views if you don’t want me to reply.

Sorry replying you now, because this server is absolute crashing..

Absoule nonsense, no Yonkou fan especially Kaido fan agreed that an Admiral soloed 2 two ycs around negg diff, they claimed they were nerfed and you both you and me know this,

and yes i will bring these arguments because the forum will moderate is fed by people who spamed these nonsenses, so stop pretending they don't exist, it's not even a critic for you and your opinions, it's about not accepting cinism.

Nik also thought Zoro defeated Mihawk in the timeskip for a long time. I’m not sure why you’re taking him seriously

You said you wasn't sure if it was all at once or gauntlet and i told it's a all at once lmfaoo, why would i take seriously the dumbass who claims Oden>Imu? Lol

 

[soupongo]

Yes, the same thing happens to any commander not named Ben Beckman

Worse would happen to Beckman

 

[Sentinel]

I think I'll respond to a later time when the servers are more stable again. As of now, it's annoying how often this forum crashes down. @TheAncientCenturion

 

[John Akainu]

Well the in verse highest IQ guy also believed too much in Kings defense and gave that to his final creations.

So we're going to ignore match up wise and the fact it's a 1v20+ because in your mental asylum worthy head(the same head which refused to accept Sanji is a conqueror), King is literally invencible and can solo a Yonkou crew?

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Absoule nonsense, no Yonkou fan especially Kaido fan agreed that an Admiral soloed 2 two ycs around negg diff, they claimed they were nerfed and you both you and me know this,

That’s what I’m saying, the cope you posted was only agreed upon by Yonko fans. And Yonko fans are among the worst power scalers in the fandom

and yes i will bring these arguments because the forum will moderate is fed by people who spamed these nonsenses, so stop pretending they don't exist, it's not even a critic for you and your opinions, it's about not accepting cinism.

Don’t toss random arguments I argued against at me.

Again, only coping Yonko fans thought there was seastone shackles on them. Bottom of the barrel takes that everyone laughs at