Controversial General Political Discussion

[Blax Blah]

then don't talk about it

I agree with this @Blax Blah , for trans people, it can be a difficult thing to read. Remember than when you feel disgusted around people, people can feel it. And in the case of trans people, it participates in their domination.

I would try to talk with them a lot to remove that feeling. It's often a feeling that is socially constructed.


I'm sorry, what?

You're right, my bad

 

[Blax Blah]

TRT ( i'm talking about steroids ) is extremely repulsive though

 

[Logiko]

What you want is literally stripping control out of the hands of the Palestinians, they don’t want a shared state

I'm talking about the words the Palestinians diaspora here..

Now, you are right that some might not want it and they would be right, ideally, all israelian should go away from Palestine, but that is not possible, so a one state solution is the only real solution to create a real peace everywhere. A two state solution can only reproduce the appartheid and perpetuate the colonization.

This is why it is something that must not be imposed to them, but something that should be built in collaboration with them through a third party (ideally)

 

[AL sama]

not an one-to-one comparison but it's like saying you're disgusted by disabilities

 

[Midnight Delight]

Yeah Ahrimanic religion needs to be eliminated like the cancer that it is

 

[Roo]

I'm talking about the words the Palestinians diaspora here..

Now, you are right that some might not want it and they would be right, ideally, all israelian should go away from Palestine, )

bruh what ? LMAO

at this point most Israelis who live there have multiple generations living there, where the fuck would they go?

actual deranged beliefs you guys have. No wonder leftist are getting comfortable with Nazis

A two state solution can only reproduce the appartheid and perpetuate the colonization.

How exactly would they? Explain

 

[Roo]

No exception, Buddhism has to fall as well

 

[Midnight Delight]

at this point most Israelis who live there have multiple generations living there, where the fuck would they go?

And most are fucking "arab Jews" making that an insane statement, especially with 75% of Gen Z Israeli Jews being partially or fully mizrahi

 

[Roo]

And most are fucking "arab Jews" making that an insane statement, especially with 75% of Gen Z Israeli Jews being partially or fully mizrahi

Logiko would be fine with an Armenian style genocide of the Israelis and he doesn’t even realize it

Palestinianism is rotting the online left

 

[Midnight Delight]

Logiko would be fine with an Armenian style genocide of the Israelis and he doesn’t even realize it

Palestinianism is rotting the online left

If an Armenian or Greek said "ideally Turks fuck off to Central Asia" they would be seen as Nazis

 

[Logiko]

not an one-to-one comparison but it's like saying you're disgusted by disabilities

I'll be fully honest here, I was also influenced by this systemically constructed rejective mindset against trans people, and there was a time when I was also disgusted by the idea in the past.

But the more I talked with them, learned about them, saw them, made them plainly visible within my visual and ideological space, I started to change my vision and I do not feel that way at all no more.

It's funny how the vision of something can in itself be completely influenced by your environment.

bruh what ? LMAO

at this point most Israelis who live there have multiple generations living there, where the fuck would they go?

Israel is still a settler colony (in fact if we really go farthest and look to the west on the cnotinent of america, we see that there are many indigenous people that are demanding for the redistribution of the control of their land).

It's important to note that people do necessarilly demand for people to live, they simply want the control back and the end of their oppression. Israel being a disputed settler colony, it is normal for anticolonialist like us to demand its dismantling.

As for where they would go.. people will have to find an answer collectively.

actual deranged beliefs you guys have. No wonder leftist are getting comfortable with Nazis

Damn...

How exactly would they? Explain

ISrael is a settler colony pushed by zionism. By NATURE, it can only create more colonization and appartheid through a form of supremacism. Without all of that, the very reason for the existence of this state will disappear. There can be no Israel without the oppression of Palestinian and minorities within Israel.

A two state solution will not create peace, it will only fix the current status of Palestine within limits that are unacceptable for Palestinian and will put them under ISraeli control nonetheless.

Every scholar who really thought about this subject recommand the creation of a NEW state, a state with both communities, uncompassing both current ISrael and current palestine where all material needs are met, where there will be reparations and where people can live together.

Antiimperialist believe that a peace can be create between people who hate eachothers simply by allowing all of them to get access to their material needs.

Logiko would be fine with an Armenian style genocide of the Israelis and he doesn’t even realize it

I believe people should think before talking sometimes...

 

[Roo]

As for where they would go.. people will have to find an answer collectively.

I believe people should think before talking sometimes...

@Midnight Delight Bro is going full mask off lmao. Literally pushing for march of deaths

A two state solution will not create peace, it will only fix the current status of Palestine within limits that are unacceptable for Palestinian and will put them under ISraeli control nonetheless.

So a state where Palestinians have their sovereignty, their own leadership, borders and security agreements put them under Israeli control? What the fuck are you on about? Is Mexico under American control?

Every scholar who really thought about this subject recommand the creation of a NEW state,

No, every scholar who you agree with recommendeds a one state. The Palestinian “solution” has no consensus from scholars

 

[Zenos7]

lmfao stop saying absurd things now. Do you personally know Blax? Are you a doctor? Plz, chill the fuck out.

ye and the dude can always decide not to read the shit here.

and if we go around policing our thoughts and our speech because of mentally unwell people, we can just stop talking altogether

 

[Okamakama]

And I pray that you never have to see the dead, the victims of violences and torture and people who have nothing as a result of gender disphoria or because they are outing themselves to their family.

Lmao, you say this to -me- of all people, Logiko.

It would turn Israel into 50% Arabs and practically create an unstable state where everyone hates each other?

Fair.

It won't be an occupation like it is now, they'll be forced to take the land in as a state and with that land also the people. They can "get away" with the apartheid conditions right now because gaza and the west bank are not part of the israeli state, if they were to be there's no way the international community would be okay with second class citizens palestinians.

Shame. If Israel wants a decisive victory, they can't just take them in.

Genuinely hilarious how people still bother with Logikos takes

He's a poison.

I agree with this @Blax Blah

Defending your altfriend again, Logiko?

I think I mentioned in the past that even just talking about trt makes me feel disgusted

Awesome, then you don't need to talk about it, do you?

You know what disgusts me......

Bro is going full mask off lmao. Literally pushing for march of deaths

He's always been like this, the fuck you mean?

ye and the dude can always decide not go read the shit here.

and if we go around policing our thoughts and our speech because of mentally unwell people, we can just stop talking altogether

Don't say that, someone might have a meltdown. We can't have that. It'd be awful. THEY CAN'T HELP BUT READ OUR MESSAGES.

 

[Zenos7]

That sexuality and Gender Dysphoria are fluid and dependent more on state of the mind rather than the Pokémon class assignment at birth culture that people believe about them

did you mean to say sexuality?

because then sure.

if you meant sex then no, we are a sexually dimorphic species of primate with 2 distinct sexes and 2 distinct gametes involved in sexual reproduction.

 

[Okamakama]

TRT ( i'm talking about steroids ) is extremely repulsive though

TRT is also used for older males to help them with health problems.

THINK BEYOND.

if you meant sex then no, we are a sexually dimorphic species of primate with 2 distinct sexes and 2 distinct gametes involved in sexual reproduction.

Correct.

 

[AL sama]

@Midnight Delight wanna get banned or something??

 

[Roo]

He's always been like this, the fuck you mean?

When has he openly called for a genocide?

 

[Midnight Delight]

@Midnight Delight Bro is going full mask off lmao. Literally pushing for march of deaths

Most far leftists are Downward Mobility impotent failedson

Just like a certain painter

Do the math and you realise why they have so much in common

 

[Logiko]

@Midnight Delight Bro is going full mask off lmao. March of deaths

Rightist when you give them a basic materialist statement about people who should try to live together collectively:

"so you want a genocide, hm???, YOu got you mask off freaking leftist, GOTCHAAAA"

(sorry, but that's kind of funny after a while)

So a state where Palestinians have their sovereignty, their own leadership, borders and security agreements put them under Israeli control?

If you find a way to make this possible, don't mind me and share your thoughts, because I tell you as any materialist would, Israel will never (and I mean absolutely never) allow a Palestinian state to exist at their border.

No, every scholar who you agree with recommendeds a one state. The Palestinian “solution” has no consensus from scholars

It kinda is.. i'm sorry :/

ye and the dude can always decide not go read the shit here.

and if we go around policing our thoughts and our speech because of mentally unwell people, we can just stop talking altogether

Or we can simply take into account the fact that there is another person in the end of the line and we act as human and not trying to systematically destroy each others?

Just a thought...

Lmao, you say this to -me- of all people, Logiko.

I'm sorry I can be a little overprotective when I see people try to stop others from getting basic healthcare. Especially as a disabled man myself.