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He literally advocates for Populistic maoist stuff and suppression of Individualism and Romanticism, his only issue with leftists is how statist they are, ergo he thinks it should have been done by Lynch mobs, dig deep into his posts and you would notice this, he just doesn't wanna admit it because it would mean he is willing to see most users here die for his goals
Which is pretty hilarious given how his "religion" is the epitome of Romanticism in Shounen, One Piece
Which is pretty hilarious given how his "religion" is the epitome of Romanticism in Shounen, One Piece
Ergo you don't know what you're talking about
Leftism is split between authoritarian and libertarian means
Authoritarian meaning using a state, state capitalism like the USSR or China
Libertarian meaning democratic organizations just made up of workers forming councils together that vote on stuff and decide
Places like the USSR literally formed by Lenin saying that all the worker councils were to be subdued to his own government, and done using state stuff
And the USSR and China massacred libertarian socialists
The biggest rivalry within the first international, and one that's well known, is Marx ( authoritarian ) vs Bakunin ( libertarian )
Leftism is split between authoritarian and libertarian means
Authoritarian meaning using a state, state capitalism like the USSR or China
Libertarian meaning democratic organizations just made up of workers forming councils together that vote on stuff and decide
Places like the USSR literally formed by Lenin saying that all the worker councils were to be subdued to his own government, and done using state stuff
And the USSR and China massacred libertarian socialists
The biggest rivalry within the first international, and one that's well known, is Marx ( authoritarian ) vs Bakunin ( libertarian )
Instead of sending you the true source, as you've never read an academic text in your life, I think I will use your ultimate move: Wikuriipedia Scureenshottu.
You guys don't read
Bakunin letter to Marx
Bakunin stated: "liberty without socialism is privilege and injustice, and socialism without liberty is slavery and brutality," which in his own vision means that freedom was achieved through self-governing communes, not the coercive centralisation of Marxism.
It isn't enough to just read, dude. You need to actually understand. I called him the Anti-Marx because ultimately, his vision within the 'revolutionist sphere' was different.
Christ.
Furthermore, may I add that 1868 is before the primary conflicts between Marx became prevalent. A quick look at Wikipedia rather than source materials such as Statism and Anarchy (1873), shows this as well. It's almost like people's opinions cannot change in the final 10 years of their lives.
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We used to live in an era where people who had ideological schisms could still value the merits of one's contributions towards a shared, yet, different vision. Bakunin opposed Marxism as he believed the transitional dictatorship of the proletariat would inevitably become a one party dictatorship that ruled over the working class.
Bakunin stated: "liberty without socialism is privilege and injustice, and socialism without liberty is slavery and brutality," which in his own vision means that freedom was achieved through self-governing communes, not the coercive centralisation of Marxism.
It isn't enough to just read, dude. You need to actually understand. I called him the Anti-Marx because ultimately, his vision within the 'revolutionist sphere' was different.
Christ.
Furthermore, may I add that 1868 is before the primary conflicts between Marx became prevalent. A quick look at Wikipedia rather than source materials such as Statism and Anarchy (1873), shows this as well. It's almost like people's opinions cannot change in the final 10 years of their lives.
Bakunin stated: "liberty without socialism is privilege and injustice, and socialism without liberty is slavery and brutality," which in his own vision means that freedom was achieved through self-governing communes, not the coercive centralisation of Marxism.
It isn't enough to just read, dude. You need to actually understand. I called him the Anti-Marx because ultimately, his vision within the 'revolutionist sphere' was different.
Christ.
Furthermore, may I add that 1868 is before the primary conflicts between Marx became prevalent. A quick look at Wikipedia rather than source materials such as Statism and Anarchy (1873), shows this as well. It's almost like people's opinions cannot change in the final 10 years of their lives.
The conflict between Bakunin and Marx was always relevant, it was the core disagreement between the two camps of the international, and that book isn't the first time that Bakunin had written against authoritarian organisations
You saw:
Bakunin was against marxism, that means he was anti-Marx
I showed:
Bakunin was against marxism, as against authoritarian organisation, but he considered Marx a friend
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Regurgitating my words?
Like it or lump it, when people refer to Marx in the modern context, they are speaking about the ideal he championed (Marxism). By saying 'The Anti-Marx' (a joke based on the antichrist, btw) I'm essentially saying he's in opposition to his theory (which you have agreed with in the above). Is that difficult to conceptualise, or are you so desperate for some kind of 'win' that you are debating over the semantics of a literal joke post that wasn't even directed at you?
You need to take a chill, man. It's as if you've been lurking here for the past ten hours waiting for someone to message. Go to bed, watch Hasan shock his dog, and then go to sleep in the knowledge you're a very good, and totally non-hypocritical Christian.
Peace.
You need to take a chill, man. It's as if you've been lurking here for the past ten hours waiting for someone to message. Go to bed, watch Hasan shock his dog, and then go to sleep in the knowledge you're a very good, and totally non-hypocritical Christian.
Peace.
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