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Who did better against Imu ?


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Talent is something you make bloom.
The only people that think luffy would not losing is people who don't know how Oda write OP lol.
Luffy was 100% losing the question was how bad to hype Imu .
Oda had luffy lose vs kaido 4 times and luffy said he was going to win and even train for 2 weeks .
And still need Internal Destruction CoA+ACoC+Awakening DF+Yamato stalling+Law's crew feeding him and saving him from drowning to his death.
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But sure, the final big baddie guy is gonna get hypetooled by the freakazoid 2-3 arcs before the end of the series.
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Kizaru didn’t have ID. And no, he beat Luffy. Luffy used a last ditch effort to try and force a draw and failed.

Kizaru beat him there’s no denying that
Kizaru most likley does have ID cause we knew Kizaru had ACoA since marineford when he block WB attack with rest of the admirals .
Not like it matter because ID and not touching not get use since wano lmao .
Kizaru did beat him by running out his time limit .
DId he do a move to KO him or do lasting damage nope but like i said that is still kizaru beating him .
 

CoC: Color of Clowns

"You know, MonsterZoro predicted all of this?"
It’s hilarious how dogshit Kid actually looks compared to Law.

Even his awakening is so trash that his fans still argue to this day that he couldn’t dodge or block DD because his bumass wanted to waste his ultimate on a fodder fleet.


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I'm under the impression Law vs Blackbeard and Kidd vs Shanks show that Law and Kidd are equals and that Shanks is still a ways beyond Teach.

I think, since Blackbeard is Luffy's pirate foil, Oda wants to show them growing at around the same rate.
 
Loki is free because he convinced everyone to free him when he told them the truth of his backstory. Even Hajrudin said to free him.

Luffy claimed he would beat Imu’s ass and that he could not lose, to then get easily negged one chapter later. Luffy claiming he would beat Loki’s ass has less relevance than him claiming he would beat Imu’s ass lol.

Keep coping because you know the entire internet now recognizes your favorite as a worthless side character lol. If Kaido was on Elbaph, Imu would have negged him easier than he negged buffed Nika.
No, Loki is free because Gaban, the man who witnessed Loki kill the Holy Knight and the unstoppable Harald, confirmed that Luffy can destroy Loki by using Gear 5.


In the worst-case scenario, all you need to defeat a guy who is falsely hyped above HK Harald is Luffy plus Zoro, and that does not impress me in the slightest.
 
Kizaru most likley does have ID cause we knew Kizaru had ACoA since marineford when he block WB attack with rest of the admirals .
Not like it matter because ID and not touching not get use since wano lmao .
Kizaru did beat him by running out his time limit .
DId he do a move to KO him or do lasting damage nope but like i said that is still kizaru beating him .
Luffy using a last ditch attack before running out of his forms is pretty common. And damage seems to make him run out faster

Luffy lost to Kizaru. And if they fought again, Luffyd lose again. So no no one needs ID, Future Sight, ACoC, or that other stuff to beat G4 Luffy.
 
If you take 2019/2020 you have people think Katakuro Gove old Rayleigh to high difficulty fight, or yamato is Admiral level or stronger than old Rayleigh. OG before 2022 knew how insa.e yonko wank are. Heck King is stronger than is common take on 2021 before greenbull neg diff him. Base luffy can low diff or gear 4 can.beat Admiral before eggland arc, doesn't need gear.5 to fight Admiral. It was pure he'll for Admiral fans to deal with upnko.fans to debate.

They used to say fruitless Admiral is yc1 level.
The problem is how long this series has been running. Scaling is all about fans picking on each other for something no one can predict... not even Oda. It's clear that he unintentionally made Ace, Crocodile, CP9, and maybe others (Strong World isn't canon but that was also a flub) too weak initially. As time goes on he just revises these things to suit the plot
 
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