Spoiler One Piece Chapter Spoiler 1190 Spoilers Discussion

[Sir Yasheen]

This isn't Luffy's fault. He's shown that he's above even Kaido, let alone Old Gaban. This is on Oda, he shouldn't have kept writing the story after Punk Hazard. He should pass this series over to a better author

Even with nerfed kaido*

 

[Luffy is the mc]

This isn't Luffy's fault. He's shown that he's above even Kaido, let alone Old Gaban. This is on Oda, he shouldn't have kept writing the story after Punk Hazard. He should pass this series over to a better author

Luffy didn't show he is above Kaido. Old Gaban is also above him. He toyed with him and Luffy needed Zoro's help.

 

[MonsterZoro]

Why people forgot Gaban can’t even move a couple chapters ago on 1 hp bleeding out need iv

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Even with nerfed kaido*

Luffy was also nerfed. Like I said, we can't make excuses for Oda. He's in his 50s now, he knows how these things should go. Any time he's inconsistent with the scaling is purely on him.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Luffy was also nerfed. Like I said, we can't make excuses for Oda. He's in his 50s now, he knows how these things should go. Any time he's inconsistent with the scaling is purely on him.

G5 wasn’t nerfed just Kaido was. No inconsistencies just you being shown you were wrong about these characters

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

Tbh was there ever any direct evidence besides the Blackbeard - Rayleigh encounter that indicates emperors > old legends?

Old WB still has a bunch of statements in his favor and BM is basically the same age as old legends

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

G5 wasn’t nerfed just Kaido was. No inconsistencies just you being shown you were wrong about these characters

"I was dead before this"

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Tbh was there ever any direct evidence besides the Blackbeard - Rayleigh encounter that indicates emperors > old legends?

Old WB still has a bunch of statements in his favor and BM is basically the same age as old legends

Old Whitebeard can't beat most other top tiers. He couldn't beat a single Admiral

 

[Sir Yasheen]

"I was dead before this"

Yeah, you get Luffy literally forgot about what condition his body was in while he was in G5? G5 wasn’t effected by it, only Luffy after losing the form felt the damages. So no G5 wasn’t nerfed at all just Kaido was

 

[GrandmasterChef Zonji]

This is Luffy at his strongest. He's not playing around like he was with Kizaru and Gaban. He's completely healthy and stronger than ever, yet Imu destroyed him.

Ain't that telling on how Oda's depicted Luffy's powerlevel is?
He use G5 against Awakened Lucci too.
G5 Luffy despite looking Goofy is serious Luffy.
He isn't playing around.
Especially with what Luffy said before he got cooked

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Ain't that telling on how Oda's depicted Luffy's powerlevel is?
He use G5 against Awakened Lucci too.
G5 Luffy despite looking Goofy is serious Luffy.
He isn't playing around.
Especially with what Luffy said before he got cooked

?

 

[GalaxyLevelShanks]

Luffy currently mid diffs Kaido

 

[Blazing Lion]

Zoro bros when there's a Sanji's upscale now

Just check the agenda bet thread man. Weaker characters performing good always upscale the stronger characters. Every swordsman hype is Mihawk hype. Any SH hype is Zoro hype. And Old Injured Gaban performing better than Luffy and Loki auto upscales Prime Gaban and those stronger than him.
Sword Piece is real right now

 

[GalaxyLevelShanks]

Sword Piece is real right now

I bet this would have been far more interesting if Zoro hadn't been confirmed trash equal to Sanji

 

[GrandmasterChef Zonji]

?

You had a problem with how Luffy vs Imu and Gyaban vs imu went right?
with how Oda shows us, especially with Luffy claiming that he is more serious and ready than before.
It clearly means Luffy isn't really on that level yet or Oda always going to undermine Luffy.
it literally shown multiple arc before.
Luffy beat Enel who is basically kinda a God at that time. ( he had rubber traits which gave him the upperhand )
Yet Luffy went toe to toe with Foxy where he supposed to low or even neg diff him ( its a gag fight mostly but he got hurt more than fighting Enel )
I can assure you if u mad at how Gyaban vs Imu fight, u will be mad at How Luffy vs Foxy went.

 

[Hako Sama]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2084796225057092031

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

You had a problem with how Luffy vs Imu and Gyaban vs imu went right?
with how Oda shows us, especially with Luffy claiming that he is more serious and ready than before.
It clearly means Luffy isn't really on that level yet or Oda always going to undermine Luffy.
it literally shown multiple arc before.
Luffy beat Enel who is basically kinda a God at that time. ( he had rubber traits which gave him the upperhand )
Yet Luffy wen toe to toe with Foxy where he supposed to low or even neg diff him ( its a gag fight mostly but he got hurt more than fighting Enel )
I can assure you if u mad at how Gyaban vs Imu fight, u will be mad at How Luffy vs Foxy went.

Luffy vs Foxy is a gag fight that wasn't just about powerscaling. It's not like Gaban vs Imu.
But honestly I'm not mad at Oda for this. It just means that I should give up on powerscaling, because it's clear that even he doesn't care about it.

 

[TheKnightOfTheSea]

I hope Imu finally gets hype tooled by the real villain of the arc and a real top tier, BM.

 

[Hiragaro]

Would be funny if they do it even on GAG, that means Oda don't give a sh*t on a sky splitters

Eventually they are gonna be strong enough to do it. So

 

[nik87]

It's more than prep work.
They are literally golden child/chosen one typa shit.
- No other Yonkou/Admiral can consume multiple devil fruit. I don't think even Imu can pull that off.
- Having two overly powerful devilfruit. Either you eat two or Take dual weilding. Loki was lucky he was one door away from two mythical zoan.

None of the Crew has shown such powerful DF together., Bigmom only She had the OP devil fruit, second best was a fuckin mochi.

Kaidou crew, only Kaidou had it, and second best Yanato fruit went rogue. After that df wasn't worth anything.

Blackbeard literally has hands on two strongest devil fruit in his category. Logia and Paramacia.

They are way past luck and Human limits.

Nah... Blackbeard is barely above old Rayleigh...
He is far from human limits, forget about breaking through. He wont break through even with a 3rd fruit.

Fruits are the inferior way of achieving power, Haki conquers everything. You can stuff yourself with 100 fruits, all you achieve is versatility, nothing more than that. Basically, a glorified Queen...