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Who did better against Imu ?


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CoC: Color of Clowns

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Let’s just be real, Sanji became a right hand / YC1 level fighter while mentally nerfing his own potential

Teach can only become a Yonko by taking a second Op Devil fruit. Sanji is gonna achieve Yonko power status by EoS without even getting a fruit.

Sanji with any mid tier DF > Teach EoS
Sanji became strong enough to briefly 2v1 Yonko Commanders over 1 Bill each, then shocked an Admiral by KICKING LIGHT, while not even just mentally nerfing himself, but physically nerfing himself by refusing to use his hands, even after unlocking his exoskeleton regen.

Judge has pretty much been the one thing holding Sanji back this entire series.

I do think Sanji will get a Sora Knight of the Sea Raid Suit, though, and I hope that Raid Suit eats Marco's Fruit.

I'm fine with Sanji being Fruitless, though.
 

TheAncientCenturion

I will never forgive Oda
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This arc actually pushed Teach being FV stakes higher lmao

Btw, that's now what WB implied.


the whole world will be turned upside down when that treasure is found.

there is also a Great War coming and shoulder the centuries of history

doesn’t take a genius to figure out Laugh Tale comes before the war Imu has been gearing up for, for centuries.

Teach is currently after the One Piece—he has Pudding, he stole Law’s rubbings—so he will have to go down before Laugh Tale is reached before the final war Imu is fearing
 
new spoiler info (arabic source that's usually on point),

imu and gaban's conq haki clash is so terrifyingly strong it made the entire forest quake on a WIDE range (these are elbaf trees, not normal ones).

gaban was about to say something important, imu jumped to attack, preventing the talk from unfolding.

gaban avoided most of imu's attacks due to his acute observation haki, then sadly got an arm cut.

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my take (i believe i said that on a past reply, or maybe forgot to do so): i think imu uses observation haki killing - like shanks.
 
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Teach was outright stated not to be the final villain back by Whitebeard’s death rattle. This arc Oda is hard reaffirming this with talks of the final war—to come only after the one piece is found.

Teach’s ass is done next big arc
You really think he's actually going to be defeated even before the Final War starts?

Give me your admin spot.
 

Reborn

Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One


the whole world will be turned upside down when that treasure is found.

there is also a Great War coming and shoulder the centuries of history

doesn’t take a genius to figure out Laugh Tale comes before the war Imu has been gearing up for, for centuries.

Teach is currently after the One Piece—he has Pudding, he stole Law’s rubbings—so he will have to go down before Laugh Tale is reached before the final war Imu is fearing
Again, that's not what WB implied.

His statement means that Teach isn't the one Roger is waiting for. This is correct because Teach won't inherit Roger's will. Teach won't bring the dawn everyone is waiting for.

Teach is not the one destined to bring freedom world is waiting for


It's Luffy.


But nothing in that statement implies Teach can't be FV. Infact, everything we saw in egghead and Elbaph - Xebec's dream, Teach having same dream, Teach planning something to deal with WG, Davy Jones lore, ambiguity regarding Ancient Kingdom being good or evil have raised Teach being FV stocks higher.

Teach's ideology of freedom runs opposite to Luffy's and this is what Oda has consistently established since Jaya.
 

Fujishiro

Im the poisoner.
Teach was outright stated not to be the final villain back by Whitebeard’s death rattle. This arc Oda is hard reaffirming this with talks of the final war—to come only after the one piece is found.

Teach’s ass is done next big arc
Whitebeard said BB isnt the guy Roger is waiting for. Roger was waiting for a saviour not a fucking villain.
 

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
At worst case scenario, he does inherit it, but will be revealed to never utilize or train it.

Oda created Teach's combat philosophy as the antithesis to Shanks'. It's ridiculously mind boggling how Shanks was the first character to mention devil fruits, while Teach was the first character to mention Haki. Their battle will not have Haki splits, it will focus on absolute peak of devil fruits (desires) versus absolute peak of Haki (willpower).

Awakened Logia, Paramecia and Zoan vs Ultra CoC, CoO and CoA.
Very interesting take. Teach never unlocking or using CoC in the final battle would definitely be interesting since every opponent has CoC now. It would definitely redeem Oda’s CoCk obsessed manga and definitively prove that CoC is not required to attain top tier or god tier strength.

I’m on board with this. CoC is the worst power in fiction so the further Oda distances himself from this trash, the better.
 
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