Role Madness Jojo's Bizzare Adventure Mafia

So if Flower cannot be redirected then her kill shot went RKO and not to Ratchet. It sounds like Flower has a really powerful character at this point. Then again it kind of make sense that she can't be redirected since Flower cannot bypass location limits at least.

Looking at my own character I gained a new ability as the DP start and I noticed the same thing with RipCal because he had a locked ability. I only had one ability to start with, I'm going to have to go back see what Flower claimed in D1 in regards to what she can do.

I'm a little concerned how some of you were so strong N1 when I only gained an ability to bypass location at the start of DP2.

Although looking at Ratchet's read I can see why people found him scummy.
 
So if Flower cannot be redirected then her kill shot went RKO and not to Ratchet. It sounds like Flower has a really powerful character at this point. Then again it kind of make sense that she can't be redirected since Flower cannot bypass location limits at least.

Looking at my own character I gained a new ability as the DP start and I noticed the same thing with RipCal because he had a locked ability. I only had one ability to start with, I'm going to have to go back see what Flower claimed in D1 in regards to what she can do.

I'm a little concerned how some of you were so strong N1 when I only gained an ability to bypass location at the start of DP2.

Although looking at Ratchet's read I can see why people found him scummy.
I‘m literally Jotaro.
 
Yoho - Null
Flower - Town
York - Town (provisional on Melkor being scum, otherwise Null)
Naomi - Indie/fine to keep alive
Polar Bear - Scum
Charlie - Null/Town (generally fine, not a strong read)
Alwaysmind - Null
Ali v2 - Town
The Orca - Indie/Scum/can be killed and would be a benefit to do so
GalaxyLevelShanks - Null
RippedCal - Scum
Lord Melkor - Scum
Handium - Null
MUUGEN - Town
Jan - Slight Town
Zemmi - Town
Duckt - Null
GANDO - Null
krogothwolf - Null
Nuit Rouge - Null
85.2 FM - Portal Radio - Null
DeVision - Null
Gianfi - Null
RKO - Null
brett2flyy - Null
Mr. Reloaded - Null
Sallucion - Null
Yo Tan Wa - Null
Udell - Town
Ratchet - Town(!)

I'm a little concerned as there are more nulls than I was thinking there would be here. Some of them I can sort of see being town on play but it's more of a stretch than I'm willing to commit to at this point, the ones in town I'm fairly confident on. Think Jan looks a lot better than SKy did but I thought Sky was looking better anyway after a weird start. Charlie I'm more town than null but that's maybe the only "town" read I'm not about a 6/10 on confidence wise. The scum reads don't all really work together as a sensible team idea so I'm going to say probably one or two are hits.
Yoho
Flower
York
Naomi

Polar
Charles
Alwaysmind
Ali
Orca
Worst
Cal
Melkor
Handium
MUUGEN
Jan
Zemmi
Duckt

Gando
krogothwolf
Nibels
Radio

DeVision
Gianfi
RKO
Brett
Sal
Yo Tan
Udell
Ratchet


Game solved
:doakes_suss:
Reloaded in his troll reads has Ratchet as town and Ratchet marks him as null even though Reloaded is doing absolutely nothing. Like it honestly bothers me how everyone ignores this guy and lynch RipCal. Wanted Reloaded over RipCal as I explained to MUUGEN but of course useless townies makes the game much easier for scum.

Zemmi not pressuring Reloaded and neither did Ratchet and so now I am even more incline to believe Worst over Ratchet.
 
Reloaded in his troll reads has Ratchet as town and Ratchet marks him as null even though Reloaded is doing absolutely nothing. Like it honestly bothers me how everyone ignores this guy and lynch RipCal. Wanted Reloaded over RipCal as I explained to MUUGEN but of course useless townies makes the game much easier for scum.

Zemmi not pressuring Reloaded and neither did Ratchet and so now I am even more incline to believe Worst over Ratchet.
Zemmi is Town regardless of what Ratchet is.
 
I‘m literally Jotaro.
If Dio is town then Jotaro could be scum, I'm not interested in the character claim. Like I said I am more interested in your abilities and how much you have because that would tell me your strength which is AI.

If you had one or 2 abilities by Night 1 that seems relatively fair but seeing as how scummy RKO is I don't see you as scum so I'm interested to see his flip.
 
At some point scum Zemmi could just vote me up, but she keeps defending me in a stubborn way that’s always just her Town self. When she has an opinion as Town she sticks to it and she fights to make it known.
 
If Dio is town then Jotaro could be scum, I'm not interested in the character claim. Like I said I am more interested in your abilities and how much you have because that would tell me your strength which is AI.

If you had one or 2 abilities by Night 1 that seems relatively fair but seeing as how scummy RKO is I don't see you as scum so I'm interested to see his flip.
I already claimed, but I can at max only use two at night.
There‘s Ora Ora (the kill) and Star Finger (a random redirect) I can use each night until I‘m out of shots.
I can’t use the Time Stop and kill at the same time. And Time Stop only N2+.
I can game remove a player I blocked with the Time Stop afterwards.
Then I have a locked ability.
+ 2 Passives
 
Zemmi is Town regardless of what Ratchet is.
Well I don't trust Zemmi and she feels the same way about me.
At some point scum Zemmi could just vote me up, but she keeps defending me in a stubborn way that’s always just her Town self. When she has an opinion as Town she sticks to it and she fights to make it known.
Even more reason for me not to trust her, too many people were too focused on you, so they didn’t have any reasonable thoughts or any push toward anyone else. They literally took the safe route and killed RipCal, who was useless. Zemmi went from reading Reloaded as town to suddenly calling him scum, with no explanation whatsoever. Then again, I got tired of reading the nonsense surrounding you, so maybe I missed it. Correct me if I’m wrong.

This seriously cannot be the way we play mafia here. If I could, I would yeet most of y’all; I honestly would. We can’t just let players skate by without providing anything. At the end of the day, this is meant to be a game where town works as a team, and we have not been doing that. RipCal is a prime example. I had Zemmi marked as town until I saw how she handled Reloaded. I’m not interested in anyone’s buddy-buddy system. I’m a simple guy, and I like to win.

Don’t ask me for reads if you’re not going to do so for every player who hasn’t contributed anything. It makes me feel like you’re not trying to solve, and if I sense that, I remove my town read from you. Then somehow I’m scum because I see the inconsistency and hypocrisy?

I already claimed, but I can at max only use two at night.
There‘s Ora Ora (the kill) and Star Finger (a random redirect) I can use each night until I‘m out of shots.
I can’t use the Time Stop and kill at the same time. And Time Stop only N2+.
I can game remove a player I blocked with the Time Stop afterwards.
Then I have a locked ability.
+ 2 Passives
Hmmm ok
 
Well I don't trust Zemmi and she feels the same way about me.


Even more reason for me not to trust her, too many people were too focused on you, so they didn’t have any reasonable thoughts or any push toward anyone else. They literally took the safe route and killed RipCal, who was useless. Zemmi went from reading Reloaded as town to suddenly calling him scum, with no explanation whatsoever. Then again, I got tired of reading the nonsense surrounding you, so maybe I missed it. Correct me if I’m wrong.

This seriously cannot be the way we play mafia here. If I could, I would yeet most of y’all; I honestly would. We can’t just let players skate by without providing anything. At the end of the day, this is meant to be a game where town works as a team, and we have not been doing that. RipCal is a prime example. I had Zemmi marked as town until I saw how she handled Reloaded. I’m not interested in anyone’s buddy-buddy system. I’m a simple guy, and I like to win.

Don’t ask me for reads if you’re not going to do so for every player who hasn’t contributed anything. It makes me feel like you’re not trying to solve, and if I sense that, I remove my town read from you. Then somehow I’m scum because I see the inconsistency and hypocrisy?


Hmmm ok
I don’t scum read you :kayneshrug: I think your entire approach is Townie, but I just think you’re wrong on Zem. She had to spend quite a bit of time defending me, but she also tried solving the game or getting Luugen to focus his mind elsewhere. It was hard for me personally as I was just pushed on the defensive and I do have the weakness that my ability to make proper reads and solve suffers when that happens too much.

Feel free to disagree with me on Zem, I didn’t sense any bad intentions from her. I also think Reloaded can do much better than what he‘s shown so far if he‘s Town. But so can many others who have to just hide in the background while that obvious TvT argument is going on in the thread.
 
Yeah. I woke up and have been trying to catch up on the overnight/sod posts before breakfast.
Every fibre in my body wants to turn around and say "nope".

I don't think Charlie, as a person, comes in to nag Flower (for this long) as scum when she is already on the edge.
He doesn't come across like that kind of opportunist.

@Zemmi
Can you give me a quick rundown on Muugen?
His game at this point is not just aggressive, but mostly disruptive.
As much as Flower and Ali have been annoyed at each other, both of them have tried to move on in their own way.
I would expect him to be a bit more aggressive but I mostly think he has got tunneled onto Flower. I also think, he would've killed me if he was scum. :josad:

It's not unlike him to hold onto it.

This isn't a solid town read, but I did get a town vibe from him last dp like I said before, when I felt he was frustrated I wouldn't follow him that made me feel really torn between my read Flower is town and thinking I was letting him down in some way.
 
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