Spoiler One Piece Chapter Spoiler 1191 Spoilers Discussion
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Tbh in hindsight, I don't think Hajrudin's feat is that crazy PL wise if you're not taking it at face value.
Regardless of whether him sending Imu flying is remniscent of Loki's feat or not. Strength by itself is a characteristic trait of the giants and Loki and Hadrujin to a lesser extent are pretty high up on that stat even amongst the giants so it's not really all that crazy for Hajrudin to send someone of Imu's size flying without Imu having his block up for example.
The only other ting is the defensive feat from the Omen explosion which I think could potentially be explained by the shield of the Elbaf warrirors. On more than one occassion now that shield has stood out quite a bit to me. Be it on Egghead when it was able to defend against Mars flame blast or even Brook being able to defend against Gunko-Imu's kick so that shield might be somewhat special with regards to it's defensive capabilities and even then the best it could do was wtithstand one of Imu's attacks. Also keep in mind that Hajrudin was able to recover from Imu's explosion on their first encounter which emphasizes his toughness so being able to take the same attack with prep and that shield is not that crazy
I know the expectation is that Imu completely washes Hajurdin which is obviosuly the case in a proper 1 v 1 but I feel like with this interaction Oda put those characteristic traits of the giants at the forefront in a circumstantial scenario which makes Hadrujin look much better than he would in a 1 v 1 against Imu if that makes sense.
Regardless of whether him sending Imu flying is remniscent of Loki's feat or not. Strength by itself is a characteristic trait of the giants and Loki and Hadrujin to a lesser extent are pretty high up on that stat even amongst the giants so it's not really all that crazy for Hajrudin to send someone of Imu's size flying without Imu having his block up for example.
The only other ting is the defensive feat from the Omen explosion which I think could potentially be explained by the shield of the Elbaf warrirors. On more than one occassion now that shield has stood out quite a bit to me. Be it on Egghead when it was able to defend against Mars flame blast or even Brook being able to defend against Gunko-Imu's kick so that shield might be somewhat special with regards to it's defensive capabilities and even then the best it could do was wtithstand one of Imu's attacks. Also keep in mind that Hajrudin was able to recover from Imu's explosion on their first encounter which emphasizes his toughness so being able to take the same attack with prep and that shield is not that crazy
I know the expectation is that Imu completely washes Hajurdin which is obviosuly the case in a proper 1 v 1 but I feel like with this interaction Oda put those characteristic traits of the giants at the forefront in a circumstantial scenario which makes Hadrujin look much better than he would in a 1 v 1 against Imu if that makes sense.
Just saw the Raw, and damn it's just... 
How tf is the fodder who was one shotted by dressrosa g2 Luffy tanking, blocking Imu's attacks, sending him flying in a supposed "new form" than the one who was low diffing top tiers
Does Oda not know that "new form" is supposed to be a power up?
I also feel like Oda is showing Imu too much
Meanwhile Blackbeard
How tf is the fodder who was one shotted by dressrosa g2 Luffy tanking, blocking Imu's attacks, sending him flying in a supposed "new form" than the one who was low diffing top tiers
Does Oda not know that "new form" is supposed to be a power up?
I also feel like Oda is showing Imu too much
Meanwhile Blackbeard
Just saw the Raw, and damn it's just...
How tf is the fodder who was one shotted by dressrosa g2 Luffy tanking, blocking Imu's attacks, sending him flying in a supposed "new form" than the one who was low diffing top tiers
Does Oda not know that "new form" is supposed to be a power up?
I also feel like Oda is showing Imu too much
Meanwhile Blackbeard
How tf is the fodder who was one shotted by dressrosa g2 Luffy tanking, blocking Imu's attacks, sending him flying in a supposed "new form" than the one who was low diffing top tiers
Does Oda not know that "new form" is supposed to be a power up?
I also feel like Oda is showing Imu too much
Meanwhile Blackbeard
Consistently creeps up in power in ways that don't necessarily feel like an asspull, still holds one of the biggest plot mysteries, has a goated crew, looks visually menacing. If he is done right he is 100% saving this series
It's time for the fandom to face it : Kaido gaunlet is not particularly impressive for a top tier.
Scrubbards are shit (Aramaki barely had to try to neutralize them) and he had the help of another yonko for the rooftop five (who were all pre awakening and pre-acoc).
Only against Yamato is somehow legit and even then we know Yamato is significantly weaker than 1026 base Luffy.
Scrubbards are shit (Aramaki barely had to try to neutralize them) and he had the help of another yonko for the rooftop five (who were all pre awakening and pre-acoc).
Only against Yamato is somehow legit and even then we know Yamato is significantly weaker than 1026 base Luffy.
Couldn't Hajrudin be reserved for Gunko honestly? Wasn't blud one shot by base Luffy in the Colosseum?
Lets begin the damage control... Jinbe blocked a portion of Imu's attack before..
Hajrudin recovered relatively quick from his one shot by Luffy
Also.. i believe he got stronger from the past arcs to Elbaph currently, he is giving all he has to be able to fight alongside Loki who has always been much superior and could easily clap him since childhood days
Lets begin the damage control... Jinbe blocked a portion of Imu's attack before..
Hajrudin recovered relatively quick from his one shot by Luffy
Also.. i believe he got stronger from the past arcs to Elbaph currently, he is giving all he has to be able to fight alongside Loki who has always been much superior and could easily clap him since childhood days
I'm talking about what started the conflict, it's not like those who oppose WG are all good guys, Pirates are scum, and all rebels have good intentions, we have Dalton, but also have Hody, so it doesn't matter how evil or how good each person on each side ended up becoming, the conflict itself had a trigger, and in that exact moment, we don't know who was right/wrong,
Skypieans & Shandians Fight started because of Jaya ending up in middle of Skypiea, you can't blame them both for fighting,
From Shandians Perspective, it's their Land & They must defend it, but from Skypieans Perspective, that Land is now inside their Kingdom & They can't just sleep at night trusting that those Shandian strangers won't harm or invade them, and neither of them planned such situation, it was all a Natural Disaster.
Even if one side is evil, it doesn't remove the existence of Third Faction of Outsiders who threaten both sides,
In Drum Island, King was Evil (Wapol) while Rebel was Good, but in Arabasta, both were Good, and In Fish-Men Island, the bad guy was the Rebel instead ... etc but at the end of the day, Drum Island was threatened by Blackbeard, Arabasta by Crocodile, Fish-Men Island by Big Mom and so on,
The Term "Pirate" can only refer to an Outside Threat, if you stay in your City & start ruining it, then you're just a National Criminal or Bandit or Rebel or Terrorist ... etc that's why Final Villain cannot be someone fighting for the Throne, it's a complete outsider to both sides who just wants to loot the place & pillage it, if They take the throne, that's just a temporary bonus for them.
Skypieans & Shandians Fight started because of Jaya ending up in middle of Skypiea, you can't blame them both for fighting,
From Shandians Perspective, it's their Land & They must defend it, but from Skypieans Perspective, that Land is now inside their Kingdom & They can't just sleep at night trusting that those Shandian strangers won't harm or invade them, and neither of them planned such situation, it was all a Natural Disaster.
Even if one side is evil, it doesn't remove the existence of Third Faction of Outsiders who threaten both sides,
In Drum Island, King was Evil (Wapol) while Rebel was Good, but in Arabasta, both were Good, and In Fish-Men Island, the bad guy was the Rebel instead ... etc but at the end of the day, Drum Island was threatened by Blackbeard, Arabasta by Crocodile, Fish-Men Island by Big Mom and so on,
The Term "Pirate" can only refer to an Outside Threat, if you stay in your City & start ruining it, then you're just a National Criminal or Bandit or Rebel or Terrorist ... etc that's why Final Villain cannot be someone fighting for the Throne, it's a complete outsider to both sides who just wants to loot the place & pillage it, if They take the throne, that's just a temporary bonus for them.
Damn, the whole forum is having a meltdown over powerscaling just like MZTS did.
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Nah fck this damage control bruh
Hajrudin is trash, can't defend this move by Oda
Could've made Hajrudin busy with something else and give his feat to Loki, then make only Loki and Luffy use Hakai to hit Imu. That is too big of a power creep for him
Seriously, getting one shot by G2 Luffy in Dressrosa is just way too garbage bruh, Oda fumbled here
Plot induced but still, bad decision imo
Hajrudin is trash, can't defend this move by Oda
Could've made Hajrudin busy with something else and give his feat to Loki, then make only Loki and Luffy use Hakai to hit Imu. That is too big of a power creep for him
Seriously, getting one shot by G2 Luffy in Dressrosa is just way too garbage bruh, Oda fumbled here
Plot induced but still, bad decision imo
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