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Who’s stronger ?


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It's because miura felt it was no longer needed for the narrative.

I do believe some of the backlash he received could have forced him to tone down but who knows
I believe so,
Especially the Early parts where Lost Children Arc
its quite sad and depressing to knew the fact that Apostles are former human who mostly got sad story and just wanted to be "free"
I was shocked and feel empathy to Rosine after rereading ngl.
but the disturbing and brutal part are the kidnapped children who turned into elves insect, become maniac and bloodthirsty monster that killed each other.
Cuz even Seinen usually didn't had children die.
And don't get me started how i despise this dude again after rereading berserk again

I'm glad Zodd kill this bum:endthis:
 
Yes but dont confuse manhandling Harald with beating Harald.
I have already explained this, many times even.
While Loki beats Harald at his own game - size advantage, he ultimately cannot beat Harald.
Why? Because Harald's haki is stronger and regenerates everything Loki has to offer.

It simply happened that a convenient plot device showed up and Harald himself removed that major obstacle - his haki defense.
While Loki would continue to beat him black and blue, he wouldnt be able to make damage stick and would gas out and Harald would prevail in the end.
Loki was wounding Harald's Haki defense included.

But I do agree that if Harald didn't return to being himself, the fight would have been different.
 
Well a character doesn't have to outright SAY they got stronger in order to prove it, but I think your overall point is true. Oda didn't give enough buildup to Hajrudin being this strong, his only impressive feat in over a decade is him blowing away a MMA with the help of Gerd and Goldberg.
Imagine if Smoker Lost High Diff to Vergo and then Sent Hybrid Kaido Flying with a punch in Wano……with 0 explanation on his strength and development . Thats essentially what has happened here.
 
I've been saying this for weeks now. Oda doesn't seem to understand that he can't just treat Imu like he's another Kaido or Doflamingo. He's not some scrub that'll get powercreeped in an arc or two. Imu is a serious villain that's meant to be one of the top 4 strongest in the verse.
Well, if the Burned Guy is at Lodestar, the amount of arcs between here and Mariejois isn't quite as far as one may think:

Lodestar -> Laugh Tale -> Final War.
 
I don't know what you are trying to say, you are the one who said you will stick to what you saw when we were comparing statements. Now you wanna add stuff that is not shown. The mark shit is based on Shanks getting free when his mark was destroyed and Harald getting back to his senses and saying he will lose control soon and the mark is shown getting healed.
What I'm adding?

Again, read the whole thing, you can have stronger haki and still be defeated like a Luffy was Kuja warriors. But the top is indeed haki so far as JB blast showed.
The same Joy Boy who has the god fruit?

But sure, I do agree he had top tier haki too. As Imu.
 
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