Powers & Abilities Characters being as strong as they need to be is in every series.
- Thread starter Dettles
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When did DBZ characters become as strong as they needed to be? Like, Yamcha, Tien, and Chiaozu are bums throughout the series. If Lolda had written DBZ, Yamcha would have dealt damage on Super Buu. 
Piccolo was relative to the Saiyans until Cell Saga, so that was not "as strong as narrative needed" considering he became a useless bum in Buu saga.
Tien stalled Cell? Come on, that's stretching it. Tien gave it all he got when sneaking against Cell and it still ended with Tien on the ground exhausting himself while Cell was not that injured. How was that stalling? Vista stopping Mihawk until Mihawk postponed with both having no injuries was stalling. Marco stopping Big Mom until she left and both had no injuries was stalling. What Tien did was not stalling.
Tien stalled Cell? Come on, that's stretching it. Tien gave it all he got when sneaking against Cell and it still ended with Tien on the ground exhausting himself while Cell was not that injured. How was that stalling? Vista stopping Mihawk until Mihawk postponed with both having no injuries was stalling. Marco stopping Big Mom until she left and both had no injuries was stalling. What Tien did was not stalling.
Literally Piccolo gave a fight to Frieza's second or third form (the Big muscular one, IIRC) in Namek, how is that not close to the Saiyans when only the Saiyans were any challenge whatsoever to Frieza at Namek?
Piccolo also fought the first Imperfect Cell in that city when Cell first attacked, and it was not like he got no diffed.
Piccolo also fought the first Imperfect Cell in that city when Cell first attacked, and it was not like he got no diffed.
The problem with powerscaling is that everyone wants to scale character 1 to character 2. But tier lists are supposed to be that if characters are in the same tier, both can win. All the talk about mid-diff, high-diff, he wins 7 out of 0 and whatever just should be avoided. If they fight, both can win.
People love inventing a new tier when a character defeats another character, or shows one cool move, but that's not how it's suppose to work.
And if a character is a tier highter, doesn't mean he can suddenly avoid all attack or is immune to a lower tier.
A toddler could hit me in the face and give me a noosebled with a sneak attack, but it doesn't mean I suddenly have to go mid-diff to knock him out.
Roger, Shanks, Mihawk, the old Yonko, Imu, Luffy are all just Top Tier.
Some might look better then the other, because they have hax powers that need to be understand first, and some might have lost because of plot convenience, but Luffy will probably beat Imu this arc regardless.
People love inventing a new tier when a character defeats another character, or shows one cool move, but that's not how it's suppose to work.
And if a character is a tier highter, doesn't mean he can suddenly avoid all attack or is immune to a lower tier.
A toddler could hit me in the face and give me a noosebled with a sneak attack, but it doesn't mean I suddenly have to go mid-diff to knock him out.
Roger, Shanks, Mihawk, the old Yonko, Imu, Luffy are all just Top Tier.
Some might look better then the other, because they have hax powers that need to be understand first, and some might have lost because of plot convenience, but Luffy will probably beat Imu this arc regardless.
