Controversial Why are there still morons who think Big Mom and Kaido aren't dead?
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1. Jarul's "resentment" is an emotional argument that you're making up.
2. Goldberg and Nash (the shield) don't need to meet Big Mom.
4. Big Mom's "history" with Elbaph probably isn't as important as you're making it out to be.
5. The Straw Hats probably wouldn't be shocked to learn Big Mom terrorized them before.
6. Her history with Harald is an assumption.
7. Luffy pretty much settled his score with her in Wano when him and the other Supernova fought her and Kaido.
8. I don't need to even consider this a real point.
The only thing she really could do is explore her relationship with Loki more, but it wasn't her relationship, it was her daughter's relationship, and her daughter isn't there.
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Yeah, a lot of people have actually died.
Maha, Vegapunk, Harald, Candel, Bellemere, Sora, Magnolia, Kanjuro, Ace, Pedro, Izou, Ashura, Saturn, Orochi, Yasui, Fisher Tiger, Mjosgard, Kuina...
Brook's entire crew died. Doflamingo's entire family died and he killed his dad himself.
Let's not forget all those kids and Mother Caramel who got eaten by Big Mom.
Maha, Vegapunk, Harald, Candel, Bellemere, Sora, Magnolia, Kanjuro, Ace, Pedro, Izou, Ashura, Saturn, Orochi, Yasui, Fisher Tiger, Mjosgard, Kuina...
Brook's entire crew died. Doflamingo's entire family died and he killed his dad himself.
Let's not forget all those kids and Mother Caramel who got eaten by Big Mom.
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Besides, if we start saying Big Mom and Kaido are alive we are also saying Luffy, Law, and Kid are FRAUDS. Especially, Luffy because he took an Emperor title as a result of beating Kaido. But, if he didn't really beat Kaido, then he's a fraud, right?
I don't think Oda wanted his readers to start saying Luffy is the biggest fraud in the story because he got an Emperor title with a lie.
I don't think Oda wanted his readers to start saying Luffy is the biggest fraud in the story because he got an Emperor title with a lie.
I don't have any opinion on this.
But I love how every single admiral fan is scared shit of Kaidou being alive.
But I love how every single admiral fan is scared shit of Kaidou being alive.
A face turn where they become Luffy's allies
Put down like Frieza was by future Trunks
There's not much else for them to do the in the story, especially now that Big Mom obviously isn't going to make it to the Elbaf arc.
If Big Mom shows up at Elbaf during this arc it would mean she has been stalking Luffy since he left Whole Cake Island lol
How many arcs ago is that?
Elbaf, God Valley, Egghead, Wano, Zou, and the Reverie.
Can you imagine her rolling up there and saying some shit like "Straw Hat, I'm here to take your head because of what you did back at Whole Cake Island and again at Wano!"
It's absurd.
How many arcs ago is that?
Elbaf, God Valley, Egghead, Wano, Zou, and the Reverie.
Can you imagine her rolling up there and saying some shit like "Straw Hat, I'm here to take your head because of what you did back at Whole Cake Island and again at Wano!"
It's absurd.
I don't have any opinion on this.
But I love how every single admiral fan is scared shit of Kaidou being alive.
But I love how every single admiral fan is scared shit of Kaidou being alive.
Kuzan's Ice is useless, Kaido can coat himself in flames that can melt Ancient Oni Bone that was taking all kinds of attacks and already has cold resist from his scales.
Dragon's are known to live in volcanos, and, even if that isn't the case in One Piece, we've see Kaido's elemental resistance to fire due to him covering himself in fire, once again, meaning Akainu's attacks aren't going to be super effective.
Kizaru's light beams are honestly the most dangerous elemental aspect here, Kizaru's speed, intelligence, and long range attack power would actually be hard to deal with, I think Kizaru unironically gives Kaido a much harder time than Kuzan/Akainu, funny enough.
Fuji is also a good match up because he's the one Admiral outside of Kuzan who has actually been portrayed as a Haki monster (while I am of the mindset Aramaki has a Black Blade, Zoro also has one he got from Ryuma, so, we have no proof Aramaki turned the sword he wields Black through his own power. If we find out Aramaki turned his blade Black himself, he probably goes above Gyaban and Rayleigh for me). Haki monster + top tier CoO + master swordsmen + Fruit that can cause Kaido problems.
We all know the history with dinosaurs and meteors, the Beast Pirates WOULD NOT have a fun time with Tama's Uncle Kurozumi Fujitora (who I still believe is Orochi's brother).
It's possible Sengoku could do some shit against Kaido, we honestly have no fucking idea how his Fruit works, and Shockwaves, as see from Law, seem to be one of the things that can pierce Kaido's scales effectively.
I think Kaido clashes with Fuji, Kizaru, and maybe Kuzan in Act 4, and knocks Aramaki out in a fight. I also think Kaido has beef with Akainu over Ace, though, Kaido 100% wanted Ace on his Crew, and believed he was Joy Boy. I think Kaido's alcoholism getting BAD was actually triggered over Ace's death: Kaido thought he had lost the one chance to see the next Joy Boy. And then, after Gear 5, Kaido finally realized it was Luffy, and got the defeat he wanted.
