Spoiler One Piece Chapter Spoiler 1192 Spoilers Discussion

[PuckTheGreat]

Imo Oda is trying to do 2 opposite things:
1- We have the whole inherited will thing passed down in history, etc, etc, etc, prophecy, whatever, and it culminates with Roger saying he was too early and someone would surpass them, gaban calling shanks "child of destiny", which indicates he thought shanks would be the person to do it, and shanks betting on Luffy to do it, since he ate the nika fruit. This "final payoff" thematic is present since chapter 1.

2- He read all the pirate jesus memes online and got pissed about it, so he tries to force down our throats that Luffy isn't some messiah and does things because he chooses to. Despite the whole "destiny" thing, ultimately, Luffy's "freedom of choice" is, at least, as important.


In theory, it could work. Luffy's own motivation doesn't need to be tied to the bigger picture, but, imo, Oda's not doing a good job at it at all.
It feels very, VERY cheap.
Also, Usopp saying things like they dont care about "even Roger" is insane.

Luffy basically has Roger as a goal. Luffy wanted to visit the place where Roger was executed in Loguetown. Oda made everyone and their mother see Roger in Luffy. Luffy has the same secret dream as Roger. Now it's "we dont care about Roger"? Give me a break.
Remember Robin in Skypie? saying that only fools would disregard history?

Trying to go "it's 100% all Luffy" is insane. xD

Retardation imo.
Luffy not caring about Joyboy or destiny even though his cock is dick deep in destiny's throat is insane to me but let's just say everything is unicorns and rainbows and we gonna nonchalantly waltz our way to the top, onus is on you to prove that you can accomplish that shit doing tings ur way and you cannot complain if shit hits the fan for any reason which includes your nakama or Elbaf getting merked as a result of your inadequecies and you sure as hell shouldn't be getting your bum ass saved by an old man to boot. Usopp talking all that shite is all well on good but, Luffy would literally have been merked if not for Gaban's interventtion. So you either take that shit serious or you prove that you can looney toons ur way to the top by your lonseome and Luffy sure as hell ain't doing the latter.

 

[mly90]

I don't mind Luffy/Loki combo attack being able to pierce Imu's shield but why so quickly after he transformed?
Imu should logically be quite stronger now but we hardly feel it because of Oda didn't even give him a full chapter of looking invincible in this form.
Obvious it is far from over and I don't think it's his final form but the transformation feels pointless rn

It's kaido situaion all over again imu tanking everything not showing his best performance until the very end

 

[Topi Jerami]

nope
i want to see super sommers

Me too.

Bruhhh, why??
Both Super Sommers and Super Killingham are so shit, uninteresting villains on the level of New Fishman Pirates, Hody Jones' gang

Compare them to King and Queen
King was much more interesting character than those Holy Jobbers
Better character design, hyped race, synergized perfectly with Kaido when Kaido tried to betray Orochi, King was so ready he prepared his sword to Kaido
He had hyped moment of kicking Big Mom ship with Big Mom herself on it and went to Marineford with Kaido

Queen sure, he was Judge's friend, taking care of Udon prison, captured Meme and can dance around

These holy jobbers though
Bad character design
Not competent
Punching bags that only got buffed thanks to Omen
Just shitty ass villains

 

[Impact]

Retardation imo.
Luffy not caring about Joyboy or destiny even though his cock is dick deep in destiny's throat is insane to me but let's just say everything is unicorns and rainbows and we gonna nonchalantly waltz our way to the top, onus is on you to prove that you can accomplish that shit doing tings ur way and you cannot complain if shit hits the fan for any reason which includes your nakama or Elbaf getting merked as a result of your inadequecies and you sure as hell shouldn't be getting your bum ass saved by an old man to boot. Usopp talking all that shite is all well on good but, Luffy would literally have been merked if not for Gaban's interventtion. So you either take that shit serious or you prove that you can looney toons ur way to the top by your lonseome and Luffy sure as hell ain't doing the latter.

Stupid is dick deep in bum ass isn't he? He's going from bum ass to throat deep.

That's apparently how we talk about things here lol

 

[MarineHQ]

 

[Topi Jerami]

If One Piece was still as good as it used to be in 2017, people would already recreate "The Great Debate: Will Imu Fall in Elbaf?"
With Luffy boys like Sanjikun making essays why he will
And guys like Buusatan making essays why he will not

But nope
People don't really care anymore, One Piece is just not that good anymore now.

 

[Impact]

Most of you started viewing One Piece just a few years ago during the most hype moment in the series. It's crazy you're demanding that every chapter when the rest of us had to actually read the story for almost 1000 chapters before that happened.

 

[MarineHQ]

If One Piece was still as good as it used to be in 2017, people would already recreate "The Great Debate: Will Imu Fall in Elbaf?"
With Luffy boys like Sanjikun making essays why he will
And guys like Buusatan making essays why he will not

But nope
People don't really care anymore, One Piece is just not that good anymore now.

Oda only has a peak Akainu story line left in the tank, other than that it's over.

 

[Sentinel]

If One Piece was still as good as it used to be in 2017, people would already recreate "The Great Debate: Will Imu Fall in Elbaf?"
With Luffy boys like Sanjikun making essays why he will
And guys like Buusatan making essays why he will not

But nope
People don't really care anymore, One Piece is just not that good anymore now.

Tbh, the signs were already there when Big Mom got run over by Franky's bike. But who would expect that Oda treats the final villain in similar ways?

 

[Impact]

Your criticisms aren't valid.

 

[Topi Jerami]

Oda only has a peak Akainu story line left in the tank, other than that it's over.

Deskainu?

Tbh, the signs were already there when Big Mom got run over by Franky's bike. But who would expect that Oda treats the final villain in similar ways?

The only remaining hope is Blackbeard Pirates. Hopefully Oda won't ruin them

 

[Impact]

Look how they cry every week and say "there's only 1 hope".

That's some pathetic shit.

 

[Impact]

Gentlemen, if you can't enjoy the story right now then you probably never will.

 

[Loki D. Terror]

This manga is garbage, how do people even read this every week

What is Oda even doing with this Imu fight? and why is Usopp being shoehorned into this scenario to sell us farts and rainbows lol
What even was the point of Gaban scolding Luffy goofy ass if we are just gonna say "bun all that and let's keep doing what we doing"? what is Oda smoking? It feels like he has no clue what he's doing with this fight and is just stallng on the hope that Imu hits is time limit and has to leave.

With Sanji and Zoro's fights we have a clear goal and direction with regards to what Oda's tryna do and can see the potential for growth with both against their opponents but all of that shit is inexistent with the Imu fight. How does Luffy even grow from this fight with the way Oda's writing this fuckery? Gets put on death's door and his saved from getting merked and then scolded to do better but Oda just having this man try again without learning anything and just have Imu job instead lol. Way this is going there is literally nothing tangible we getting from this except let's throw shit at the wall and hope Imu hits his time limit. I also have no idea what he's saving Loki's hybrid for. If the end goal is to drive Imu off Elbaf why not have Loki use his hybridi exhaust Imu by forcing him to us more energy than he would like then you add the HK getting merked on that and then have Luffy contribute with the final blow through some nika fuckery or something? Don't understand why he's wasting our bloody time with these stalling antics

That is the problem to be honest.
In terms of tension and pacing, it’s really poorly handled. When a villain unveils a new form, they’re portrayed as overpowered; they shouldn't be made to look like a joke in that very same chapter. It completely kills the tension and seriousness when the final villain, in his new form, gets humiliated by Hajrudin. The problem isn't even that Hajrudin and the others are getting these feats, but if they do, it should be against the weaker version, the one that was already capable of destroying everyone.

From a writing standpoint, it’s very poorly executed. The form upgrade was so random and even then it was so meangless since it seems to not be make any difference...

I have quit discussing OP. Oda be doing nonsense writing.

 

[PeronaNerona]

Look how they cry every week and say "there's only 1 hope".

That's some pathetic shit.

Seems like you are the one crying about people not liking this trash manga.

 

[Impact]

These guys cry about everything. I've never seen a group of people whine this much.

 

[Impact]

Every week several people here are going "I can't believe people read this garbage"

 

[moreha9685]

Every week several people here are going "I can't believe people read this garbage"

Enough spamming, TAC.

 

[Impact]

That Morena guy and several others here are people who have personality disorders.

 

[Topi Jerami]

Look how they cry every week and say "there's only 1 hope".

That's some pathetic shit.

Aren't you got bodied by Buusatan94 just yesterday?