Spoiler One Piece Chapter Spoiler 1193 Spoilers Discussion

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nik87

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Thinking is overrated unless you are a genius, Zoro should be and act more like a retarded beast imo.
Yes, giving Zoro abilities which can turn fights into neg diff is not exciting.
This is why I hope he never learns Joyboy/Shanks haki burst.
Path of Carnage is way more entertaining.

God tier Loki > HK Harald > normal Harald/Xebec agenda ruined. You love to see it.
They worked so hard to dig their own graves...
...not even mad, it is amazing.
 
Didn't WB accidentally kill Maffy in GV or am I demented?
Nah, Waffey was ultimately fine.

Anyways that seems like a White Star Gun situation where people ignored all the fighting before an attack for some reason.

I rate Loki highly because he was able to stand up to HK Harald at all, like that's a Rocks level fighter with a massive boost on top of everything else...the last move was just a finisher.

How do you rate Big Purple btw? God tier, Yonko/Admiral? His powerscaling is a mess but I think he's up there.
I don't think base Loki is god tier lol, but he's definitely in the upper echelons of top tiers. Hybrid Loki will surely be stronger than the likes of Primebeard or Dodger imo.
 
It's actually crazy how much disrespect Zoro can deliver to an opponent, clowning of this level hasnt happened since Monet. :crazwhat:
Sommers' ability is crazier than I thought, the spikes appear where he imagines them, downright broken and yet...
...clowned so hard like it is nothing. DF abilities are worse than basic tricks at this point and we aint in Hakiman Saga yet.

Also, there is a panel focusing on Zoro using COA alone in this chapter and tagging the heart but it bounced off of it...
...I guess Oda really wants to make CoC a must in this case, which is rather lame, an attempt to drag scrub tier higher than they should be.
If Zoro keeps thinking for a minute longer, Imu should watch out, he might get neg diffed by Pinnacle of existence.


It is not 2 years yet and ppl are already agreeing with me? I call this improvement! :quest:
the throns are also invisible
 
I prefer what's happening with Sanji compared to Zoro.

Sanji is about to get some major character focus and go through a major character development before he finally showcases CoC.

We are going to be seeing what is mentally blocking Sanji and what type of King he wants to become.

For Zoro during Wano, it was oh yeah you have CoC, and that was pretty much it.

Obviously Zoro's character focus during the Sommers fight will be him learning on how to control and use his CoC, and how to use it in order to kill Sommers.

But for me I like Sanji's route way more, even if Sanji is going to take longer.
reread Zoro vs King, Zoro was mentally blocked too for years, the whole thing about it was that he lost his way of becomming the strongest swordsman.
he was scared to die because he started to live for Luffys dream while before he was gladly dying for his own dream.
in that fight he started to understand again that for making Luffys dream come to he has to make his own dream come true and everything that includes it even when it means he dies. thats why at the end he was willing to put everything into enma instead of before pulling himself back from the sword.
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Yes, giving Zoro abilities which can turn fights into neg diff is not exciting.
This is why I hope he never learns Joyboy/Shanks haki burst.
Path of Carnage is way more entertaining.
This fight is even more of a neg-diff in terms of actual combat ability... than Zoro v. Lucci or Zoro v. Kamazou/Hawkins/Apoo
It's just Oda dragging the fight out for entertainment purposes, just imagine if Zoro had the brain of Law here.
Zoro is probably already better than prime Oden/Rayleigh/Gaban.

The Janitor should also be another one shot neg diff, the thorns were invisible this chapter and got crushed all the same.


They worked so hard to dig their own graves...
...not even mad, it is amazing
No words... :risisweat:
 
Well he didn't knew. But Oda already established at that time how that was their weak point. Harald pointed his heart for thematic reasons. He loved his son. Oda took two birds with one stone.

While rogia real body can be touched by armament haki. People with omen can be touched by supreme king haki.

That's why gunko did not show her heart when got hit by usopp. With supreme king haki you can hit omen powered up people real body.
In this chapter there is the "heart" discussion from Zoro and we even see Harald panel tapping his heart. I think we can finally safely say that Oda already knew what he was doing, very sorry for the haters :willight:
 
Anyway, nice to see all this but... where's the part about CoC? Why didn't he use it. I don't quite get this scene tbh.
Did he just check cutting it with CoA? Is zoro just doing some trial and error science with Sommers?
:Think:

Casual use of CoC is nothing zoro needs to learn. So what's he supposed to be practicing exactly here
 
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