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they talk about logic in the story when their posts itself is meaningless and logic less rant...anyone tries to reason with it and when they can't debunk argument, they resort to "Oda's cheerleaders" tactic....so don't further quote them you also labelled again as such...:gokulaugh:
still waiting for one of you to explain why kinemon didnt jump in between oden vs dragon kaido’s duel, and slice his boro breath and proceed to stab him

10 ppl struggling to come up with one answer is very embarrassing
 
Not really the same thing. Luffy could stilll runcand use other gears when it ran out. All he couldn’t do was use haki
Without Haki he couldn't fight, couldn't even break candy wall like he did with red hawk. When Sulong dries up those two are done. Jack is an ancient Zoan who hasn't used hybrid or awakening yet.
 
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