Spoiler One Piece Chapter 991 Spoilers Discussion
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But the yonkou are political terms. As in 'Emperor'-the leader of an empire.
Are you forgetting that political power is also counted when people say "Yonkou are the strongest" in the series itself?
Or is this headcanon that political power is not counted here? That Luffy became an Emperor because he's literally the same fighting power as the rest of the yonkou and all those other things that Morgan was saying about his fleets his alliances and even his family members don't matter. When Morgan was listing all these things to call Luffy and Emperor, the only thing that actually mattered was he beat Cracker and katakuri. Everything else was inconsequential.
Is this all headcanon?
Are you forgetting that political power is also counted when people say "Yonkou are the strongest" in the series itself?
Or is this headcanon that political power is not counted here? That Luffy became an Emperor because he's literally the same fighting power as the rest of the yonkou and all those other things that Morgan was saying about his fleets his alliances and even his family members don't matter. When Morgan was listing all these things to call Luffy and Emperor, the only thing that actually mattered was he beat Cracker and katakuri. Everything else was inconsequential.
Is this all headcanon?
No WB WSM means stronger than every man and would win in a fight
Mihawk WSS means stronger than every swordsman
Strongest Pirate WB means he would win in a war against every other pirate like Yonkou would though that's not his official title. Secondary sources like Novel shouldn't be used to contradict main canon source.
Yonkou are called four most powerful pirates with the word Garp used is used for political power for a reason.
Mihawk WSS means stronger than every swordsman
Strongest Pirate WB means he would win in a war against every other pirate like Yonkou would though that's not his official title. Secondary sources like Novel shouldn't be used to contradict main canon source.
Yonkou are called four most powerful pirates with the word Garp used is used for political power for a reason.
The moment @Seraphoenix is utterly checkmated when it comes to real arguments (which quite frankly is a piece of cake to do), he would start trolling and baiting so you just wasting your time.
I hope they all do. There is clearly enough villains and if the BMP join in, then there is more than enough.
- 9 BP Members (5 Flying 6, 3 All Stars, Kaido)
- Big Mom
- Hotei and Fukurokuju (assuming they are formidable)
- Potentially Orochi (I'd love to see this as Usopp's fight because COWARDS and GOD USOPP)
- Perospero
- Like at least 4-5 other decent BMP Members (Snack, Smoothie, Campote, Daifuku, Mont d'Or, Amande, etc etc)
Oda needs to spend the time this arc to really capitalize on this. I'd rather spend another 40-50 chapters on pure battles if it means we get to see all 10 strawhats receive power ups worthy of defeating a Yonko crew, potentially two, even if those matchups include Scabbards, Marco or Supernova getting something too.
- 9 BP Members (5 Flying 6, 3 All Stars, Kaido)
- Big Mom
- Hotei and Fukurokuju (assuming they are formidable)
- Potentially Orochi (I'd love to see this as Usopp's fight because COWARDS and GOD USOPP)
- Perospero
- Like at least 4-5 other decent BMP Members (Snack, Smoothie, Campote, Daifuku, Mont d'Or, Amande, etc etc)
Oda needs to spend the time this arc to really capitalize on this. I'd rather spend another 40-50 chapters on pure battles if it means we get to see all 10 strawhats receive power ups worthy of defeating a Yonko crew, potentially two, even if those matchups include Scabbards, Marco or Supernova getting something too.
Because Kin'emon isn't a tank who can survive a building falling on him. And again has NOT been shown to move fast enough for a building that's specifically searching for him and moving as fast as Kaido who SPEED BLITZED LUFFY IN GEAR FOURTH. I mean really.
Like imagine a skycraper moving as fast as Gear fourth Luffy falling on this man. You somehow think from how we've seen him Kin'emon freak out from Pica, that He's fast enough to dodge or strong enough to block this or even tough enough to tank this?
Really?
Like imagine a skycraper moving as fast as Gear fourth Luffy falling on this man. You somehow think from how we've seen him Kin'emon freak out from Pica, that He's fast enough to dodge or strong enough to block this or even tough enough to tank this?
Really?
Its not a hint and its pretty clear he did show barrier haki.
This is marco taking kizarus attack
As we can see the attack is blocked rips marco to bits and he heals himself
This is shanks vs akainu
As you can clearly see not only is the punch blocked all the excess magma is clearly held back by the barrier
now marco vs akainu
Weve seen marco block with his fruit and regen this is completely different not only is marco not being hit by the magma and regenerating, just like shanks the magma is being held back. Ergo Barrier haki.
This is marco taking kizarus attack
This is shanks vs akainu
now marco vs akainu
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so in summary:
1) you see no issue with kinemon stabbing kaido
2) you see no issue with kinemon reacting to boro breath (for the record, oden got hit with that same attack instead of dodging)
3) but somehow you are living in a fantasy world where kaido swings his tail and kinemon dies instantly, unable to dodge or block
Sorry but those three points cannot exist at the same time, there’s a big flaw with your logic if you think thats okay
Either kinemon and kaido are closer in strength than you think, or those scenes are as credible as scenes such as buggy dodging akainu’s fist (everyone agrees that was awful writing). Pick one or the other.
you’re trying desperately to have your cake and eat it to, and its silly.
1) you see no issue with kinemon stabbing kaido
2) you see no issue with kinemon reacting to boro breath (for the record, oden got hit with that same attack instead of dodging)
3) but somehow you are living in a fantasy world where kaido swings his tail and kinemon dies instantly, unable to dodge or block
Sorry but those three points cannot exist at the same time, there’s a big flaw with your logic if you think thats okay
Either kinemon and kaido are closer in strength than you think, or those scenes are as credible as scenes such as buggy dodging akainu’s fist (everyone agrees that was awful writing). Pick one or the other.
you’re trying desperately to have your cake and eat it to, and its silly.
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