Discussion Power Black Clover Power Levels
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AM Demon's power that Asta's been using is but a small fraction of it's power. Asta never even used it's true power before Dante fight. The movement AM Demon shared it's power with Asta he gained enough power to defeat this
This is Lucifero's host utilizing his maximum potential. From what we've seen, demon hosts can access their demon powers better than Asta and they can draw more power from their respective demons to augment their own. The Dark Triad demons can even take over their hosts at will unlike Asta's demon and yet all that power Dante mustered was meaningless against AM Demon's power. If Asta, who is technically not even a host, can do this to the alleged strongest Demon's host then imagine what AM demon can do with a host; imagine what it can do with it's original body.
Yes, the fact that he's the source of the MC's power is also a part of the reason why I think AM Demon might be the strongest. The anti-magic in itself is more than qualified enough to be the most broken ability in a world where everything runs with magic. To top it, AM Demon seems to be particularly overpowered even for a demon. A high ranking Demon like Zagred was scared shitless upon looking at Asta's demon. Look at that expression, He must be something else if he can scare a high ranking Demon with his presence alone. Nacht outright confirms that anti-magic has the potential to make Asta the ultimate worrier. I think that says a lot about AM Demons prowess. The only thing that's restraining Asta from human is his own lack of skill and strength to wield his demons true power.
This is Lucifero's host utilizing his maximum potential. From what we've seen, demon hosts can access their demon powers better than Asta and they can draw more power from their respective demons to augment their own. The Dark Triad demons can even take over their hosts at will unlike Asta's demon and yet all that power Dante mustered was meaningless against AM Demon's power. If Asta, who is technically not even a host, can do this to the alleged strongest Demon's host then imagine what AM demon can do with a host; imagine what it can do with it's original body.
Yes, the fact that he's the source of the MC's power is also a part of the reason why I think AM Demon might be the strongest. The anti-magic in itself is more than qualified enough to be the most broken ability in a world where everything runs with magic. To top it, AM Demon seems to be particularly overpowered even for a demon. A high ranking Demon like Zagred was scared shitless upon looking at Asta's demon. Look at that expression, He must be something else if he can scare a high ranking Demon with his presence alone. Nacht outright confirms that anti-magic has the potential to make Asta the ultimate worrier. I think that says a lot about AM Demons prowess. The only thing that's restraining Asta from human is his own lack of skill and strength to wield his demons true power.
I hope there will be demons/characters who can make anti-magic irrelevant in the future. I can't seem wrap my head around the fact that Lucifero considers anti-magic a lower tier ability. Is is that OP? Or He doesn't understand what anti-magic is truly capable of?
Zagred never trash talked anti-magic irrc. He only ever mocked Asta's inability to keep up.
Zagred never trash talked anti-magic irrc. He only ever mocked Asta's inability to keep up.
Some abilities cannot be utilized to their maximum potential unless you complement them with your skill set and physical prowess. Anti-Magic belongs to that category too. Asta is restrained by his own lack of skill to utilize anti-magic to it's maximum potential. He failed against Dante for the exact same reason, not because anti-magic was ineffective.
Where would you guys rank the Witch Queen?
I think Witch Queen is often overlooked. Imo she is at least above captain level, probably even devil host level, though I have doubts about placing her on the same level as Julius/Licht/Lumiere. At the very least above captain level or inbetween above captain level and the dark triad.
As I said in the other thread it would be something like Lucifero/Highest Ranking Devils>Julius>=/= Licht/Lumiere>DT/WQ?>WQ?>Yami/Mereoleona/WQ?>Captain level.
The question marks are because I am not really sure where. I do think she's at least stronger than Yami/Mereoleona level so to say.
I think Witch Queen is often overlooked. Imo she is at least above captain level, probably even devil host level, though I have doubts about placing her on the same level as Julius/Licht/Lumiere. At the very least above captain level or inbetween above captain level and the dark triad.
As I said in the other thread it would be something like Lucifero/Highest Ranking Devils>Julius>=/= Licht/Lumiere>DT/WQ?>WQ?>Yami/Mereoleona/WQ?>Captain level.
The question marks are because I am not really sure where. I do think she's at least stronger than Yami/Mereoleona level so to say.
Well I don't really watch the anime, so I don't know how canon it is or how much it would influence it.
I think she's at least above captain level. Like I said probably either DT level or slightly below that. She wouldn't be able to hold off an invasion from the Spade Kingdom because they have multiple people on the same level or slightly stronger than her, the DT, and a plethora of very powerful dark disciples.
I think she's at least above captain level. Like I said probably either DT level or slightly below that. She wouldn't be able to hold off an invasion from the Spade Kingdom because they have multiple people on the same level or slightly stronger than her, the DT, and a plethora of very powerful dark disciples.
I really hope the Qlipoth will be fully open. I want to see Despair. I want to see people in the state of doubting their existence.
Lucifero's arrival should be the most epic shit in this Manga.
Bro Lucifero must do Black Clover's version of Heaven and Earth
Lucifero's arrival should be the most epic shit in this Manga.
Bro Lucifero must do Black Clover's version of Heaven and Earth
At the request of @Seth
Here is my BC tier list as of Nachtโs interruption of the Captainโs Meeting:
Feel free to post your own tier list or otherwise discuss any topic relating to power levels in Black Clover.
Here is my BC tier list as of Nachtโs interruption of the Captainโs Meeting:
Feel free to post your own tier list or otherwise discuss any topic relating to power levels in Black Clover.
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Here's my top 30 current characters.
- Dante - Crazy Regen, nearly unstoppable gravity magic, possessed by Lucifero, bodied the Black Bulls and has received a mysterious upgrade.
- Zenon - Pretty much stomped William, post skip Yuno couldn't do anything to him.
- Vanica - Fought a super tough team who were prepped specifically to counter her and still won, curses are op, nuked the Heart Kingdom.
- Mereoleona - Almost Wizard King level before timeskip and is much stronger now, seemingly stomped a demon, one of the few people to have mana zone.
- Yami - Was able to overwhelm Dante with his combat ability, has mana zone.
- Fuegoleon - Has the strongest combative spirit, comparable to at least pre-skip Mereoleona, and on par with Nozel without a spirit.
- Nacht - Pretty much stomped Asta multiple times, has mana zone
- Nozel Silva - Stated to be one of the strongest captains pre-skip, rival of Fuegoleon, stomped Dark Elf Patri.
- Dorothy - Straight OP magic, should have an Elf Boost.
- Lolopechka - More mana than pretty much anyone, spirit user, magic affects the entire Heart Kingdom.
- William - A strong captain though he lost to Zenon without doing any notable damage, powers more suited to support.
- Jack - Rival of Yami with really good magic but has low mana compared to other captains.
- Yuno - New massive power up managed to cut Zenon's bones, has a spirit, has mana zone.
- Asta - Somewhat kept up with Dante, Zagred and Dark Elf Patri. New form overpowered Nacht but he doesn't have full control over that yet.
- Patri - Fought Julius and Yami in decent fights. Should be stronger now in Licht's body.
- Gadjah - Vastly superior to the other Spirit Guardians. Stomped a Dark Disciple.
- Noelle - Put up an impressive showing against Venice, fought evenly with Fana and defeated an Elf who beat Nozel. Only lower than Yuno and Asta because we haven't seen her new power up yet.
- Rhya
- Charlotte
- Vetto
- Charmy - Defeated Elf Empowered Rill with ease and has an OP Elf Form.
- Fana
- Witch Queen - Hard to gauge since her magic is mostly supportive. Was able to fight a young Captain Yami.
- Rill - Arguably the weakest Captain pre-skip while he has a good magic attribute and power he is easily distracted, doesn't have the combat acumen of other captains, and hasn't mastered his magic to the level of the other captains. With Heart training and an Elf Boost he should receive a massive power but his biggest weakness is personality not magic.
- Leopold - Nuked A Dark Disciple. One of Asta's rivals and a royal who is dedicated to improving.
- Kaiser - Has a really good magic type but is lacking in physical ability and is pretty one note.
- Langris - Really strong and has spatial magic. Previous Vice Captain of the best magic knight squad.
- Luck - Defeated a Dark Disciple. Is a natural with Mana Arrays and has Elf Boost.
- Damnatio
- Kirsch
