Spoiler One Piece Chapter 997 Spoilers Discussion
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Zoro looks to be pretty cool this chapter. Not as much Zoro hype as initially portrayed, he caught Apoo when Apoo wasn’t paying attention. The move was cool, but the moment takes a hit because of that. And he’s for sure not taking on or out Kaido now. He’s not going to say that in front of a subordinate and just walk around him. Zoro is going to be fighting King. Jinbe is still moving up to that level I believe, he’s probably going to be fighting Queen, especially with Sanji incapacitated.
It’s whatever to me in this chapter, but it’s funny the rate at which his fans are praising Sanji for running off to potentially save a woman from sexual harassment, given his own actions in the Wano bathhouse and their constant defense and justification of that particular scene. His fans might try to say this was a particularly good moment for him, but it makes them and more importantly him look hypocritical as hell.
I don’t worry to much about Law’s crew, he’ll probably be able to room them over when he realizes what’s going on. And it looks like for now, Marco’s flames are going to hold the virus off before he meets up with Luffy.
It’s whatever to me in this chapter, but it’s funny the rate at which his fans are praising Sanji for running off to potentially save a woman from sexual harassment, given his own actions in the Wano bathhouse and their constant defense and justification of that particular scene. His fans might try to say this was a particularly good moment for him, but it makes them and more importantly him look hypocritical as hell.
I don’t worry to much about Law’s crew, he’ll probably be able to room them over when he realizes what’s going on. And it looks like for now, Marco’s flames are going to hold the virus off before he meets up with Luffy.
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How can you debate this? Do you refuse to know what the hell is a WSC?
And Oda used the word 'Saikyō Seibutsu (最強 生物): which translated as The Strongest Biological Being / The Strongest Creature Among All Beings. Seibutsu includes all living things in the world, including humans. The reason why free manga sites misspell Kaido's title is because the English word "Creature" has plural meanings, but in the original scan there is no ambiguity because the word 'Seibutsu' is the one being used, which is why Kaido was not given the title "Strongest Man" or anything like that, because he is simply not human.
Kaido's title isn't ambiguous at all in the japanese version, his title 100% include humans.
You can do a quick research on what Seibutsu mean:
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/せいぶつ#Japanese
living thing, life, organism, creature .
https://www.kanjijapanese.com/en/dictionary-japanese-english/seibutsu
seibutsu creature 2. seibutsu living things.
The ambiguity only come from people reading the English chapter and assuming the word "creature" is to be understood in the animal sense.
In japanese it clearly mean Kaido is the strongest living organism/thing and quite obviously humans are living things.
Kaido's title 100% put him above any human alive in the series, the only way Kaido isn't the strongest character is if his title is fake in the first place or if someone surpass him in the future.
And Oda used the word 'Saikyō Seibutsu (最強 生物): which translated as The Strongest Biological Being / The Strongest Creature Among All Beings. Seibutsu includes all living things in the world, including humans. The reason why free manga sites misspell Kaido's title is because the English word "Creature" has plural meanings, but in the original scan there is no ambiguity because the word 'Seibutsu' is the one being used, which is why Kaido was not given the title "Strongest Man" or anything like that, because he is simply not human.
Kaido's title isn't ambiguous at all in the japanese version, his title 100% include humans.
You can do a quick research on what Seibutsu mean:
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/せいぶつ#Japanese
living thing, life, organism, creature .
https://www.kanjijapanese.com/en/dictionary-japanese-english/seibutsu
seibutsu creature 2. seibutsu living things.
The ambiguity only come from people reading the English chapter and assuming the word "creature" is to be understood in the animal sense.
In japanese it clearly mean Kaido is the strongest living organism/thing and quite obviously humans are living things.
Kaido's title 100% put him above any human alive in the series, the only way Kaido isn't the strongest character is if his title is fake in the first place or if someone surpass him in the future.
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People call him the strongest but he has yet to receive that text box confirming it from the author himself. Oda has deliberately gone out of his way to play around with Kaido's World's Strongest Creature "title." I won't fold my opinion of him being #1 just yet but if Zoro deadass said "the so-called strongest" then you gotta admit that the WSC title is in legitimate jeopardy here mate.
He is not saying that at that moment he is no longer the strongest.
In Sengoku's mind you see WB with the nasal hoses.
Sengoku saw Squard stab WB and still said he was the strongest.
And knowing Garp's level, Sengoku said that WB was the strongest and you know that Garp is one of the two most overrated characters in one piece
In this databook Oda says that WB continued to have the same strength of its best days
Also, the powers of the devil fruits do not get sick.
In Sengoku's mind you see WB with the nasal hoses.
Sengoku saw Squard stab WB and still said he was the strongest.
And knowing Garp's level, Sengoku said that WB was the strongest and you know that Garp is one of the two most overrated characters in one piece
In this databook Oda says that WB continued to have the same strength of its best days
Also, the powers of the devil fruits do not get sick.
heart attack and weakness is and Sengoku wasn't aware of that
ffs ... Whitebeard was HIDING HIS SICKNESS from the world cause he didn't want others know how much weaker he got
sure that's what strongest man in the world would do
Admiral fanboys having a very close look on this thread rn
Regardless I tend to look at things on full sight and I was ready to admit Kaido as the strongest if that would have been clear but it appears that the only element we have left now is that Kaido is merely the "so called" strongest, this opens up to a new interpretation of the thing.
In fact, his whole WSC title might have been a big fake.
I recall Buggy was also wrong about calling Whitebeard the WSM during the current era when facts proved he wasn't as a sick and old man.
no bcs fluent people like that new one can be biased as well. Yall dont ever think it that way? besides, we have got plenty translators with excellent japanese skill like @PuckTheGreat @ivaannom or even fluent in it like @EtenBoby. These translators hold the same credibility as they have been for a long time, and almost certain their translation reflected in the official.
Now lets just see what kind of narrative ppl will choose for atleast the next two days
Now lets just see what kind of narrative ppl will choose for atleast the next two days
I'm a guy who understands that Oda, who consistently talks about things he improvises on a whim, may not have thought of advanced armament haki two decades ago and is open to the possibility that he simply retconned Shanks's cliché intimidation, Skypiea's specific mantra and Zoro's breath of things as "haki" many years after introducing them —especially considering that the explanation of the breath of things still makes no sense regarding advanced armament because the author simply copied Koushiro's speech without actually adapting the mechanics nor closing the holes.
I'm not refusing facts in the manga, I'm simply giving a deeper thought than the gullible assumption that Oda planned it all along and what Zoro did twenty years ago of course was an advanced form of a power known for being inconsistent and poorly implemented since day one.
I'm not refusing facts in the manga, I'm simply giving a deeper thought than the gullible assumption that Oda planned it all along and what Zoro did twenty years ago of course was an advanced form of a power known for being inconsistent and poorly implemented since day one.
Basicallly everything about that chapter was already said, but what bugs me a little is that Apo can keep up with hybrid Drake just fine. What's up with that??
After witnessing P1's city block slap I would have assumed that Drake would probably be peerless in terms of actual physical strength within the supernovas, except for buffed Urouge maybe. And that he can actually send the other guys flying.
Zoro getting blocked by Apo is understandable, the power of his named attacks mainly comes from his superior haki flow usage, but Drake.. this guy is pure stats. If he's not anything special within that, he's legit MUCH weaker than I thought.
His only saving grace could now be awakening, which might grant him a more powerful dino monster form, but I'm not sure Oda gives awakening to the supernovas.
Perhaps it just goes to show how powerful P1's fruit actually is and that Apo is legit worth his salt. Anyway he's definitely in the Top4 of the supernovas for now.
Kid's "punk rotten" is my only hope left. Hopefully he can use that attract/retract stuff to speedblitz around, while beating guys to a pulp with gigantic hakified metal fists. If he's just throwing junk at Kaido or Big Mom I'm officially out.
After witnessing P1's city block slap I would have assumed that Drake would probably be peerless in terms of actual physical strength within the supernovas, except for buffed Urouge maybe. And that he can actually send the other guys flying.
Zoro getting blocked by Apo is understandable, the power of his named attacks mainly comes from his superior haki flow usage, but Drake.. this guy is pure stats. If he's not anything special within that, he's legit MUCH weaker than I thought.
His only saving grace could now be awakening, which might grant him a more powerful dino monster form, but I'm not sure Oda gives awakening to the supernovas.
Perhaps it just goes to show how powerful P1's fruit actually is and that Apo is legit worth his salt. Anyway he's definitely in the Top4 of the supernovas for now.
Kid's "punk rotten" is my only hope left. Hopefully he can use that attract/retract stuff to speedblitz around, while beating guys to a pulp with gigantic hakified metal fists. If he's just throwing junk at Kaido or Big Mom I'm officially out.
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