Spoiler One Piece Chapter 997 Spoilers Discussion

[bennbeckman]

Why would Apoo let them do that though? To pick something up and put it in your ears you'd have to uncover them, no? Apoo can literally knock Luffy out with an explosion. You think he'll just let Zoro pick something up and put it in his ears?

Yet apparantly Apoo let Drake get really close to him.

Apparantly in your eyes Zoro isnt fast enough to pick up something and put it in his ears, but fast enough to land a "Sneak Attack" on Apoo

 

[Blother Fertitta]

L Catchers this chapter
- Asspoo
- Lanji
- Beetle Gifrer

 

[sidestreetboy]

Kaido. What in the world? The whole island!?

Zoro, you have the eye of the tiger. Show that unruly Dragon the power of Santoryu.

Grandmaster popped off this chapter. Zoro doesn't like to fight for revenge, but this time, it's personal.

First time we see an enraged Zoro in this series

 

[Welkin]

Damn you reaching far to try and downplay Zoro

I'm not downplaying Zoro that's literally just how it works. Apoo is a supernova just like Zoro is. He isn't weak. Tell me something I said that's wrong. Did he have Kidd reeling? Yes. Did he knock Luffy out? Yes. Do you want the panels?

 

[PurpleSwordsman]

That's not how Zoro fights. He uses no more power than necessary. That's why he found another way to deal with Pica.

He uses all he has against tough opponents. Pica was one of them. He even needed help to reach him.
I don't know what's so difficult to see here lul.

How would the terrain shift worry Zoro to the point to trigger Asura?

Zoro was risking his life against Kaku and he only triggered Asura when he understood he might have died.

This never occurred in the fight against Pica, Zoro never risked much.

He needed to defeat Pica, and he couldn't land a hit on him. Ofc he should worry in that situation. And finally he lost his opponent and couldn't stop him from leaving the mountain. He needed help to reach him even.

You don't only need to use your strongest moves when your life is in danger, you need to use it when you can't deal with the opponent you are facing with the might you are using. If you want to defeat X and your current attacks are not reaching him, you should use something better IF YOU HAVE.
Should I explain why breathing keep people alive too?

 

[Monster Luffy]

Yamato have literally 0 feats
And you put her next to zoro who has proven himself a lot more than her. Until yamato takes out tobi roppo 1 vs1 in full blown fight i wont push her to the above vet.

I know zoro has not to many feats too but comparing them cmon. Let yamato do something significant first

Ok fair enough.

Post automatically merged: Nov 26, 2020

Zoro didn't see BM flying up he saw kiku's arm flying down

Come down from the Zoro wank for sometime and reread chapter 996.

 

[bennbeckman]

Apoo will definitely come back. Point is almost every character in one piece comes back even the ones that cut by sword. Apoo may even switch sides.

Lets assume he comes back very shortly. IMO he will definitely switch sides, because Queen will then want to kill him, similar to Drake

 

[Excelsion]

Ran into a web then got kicked by the 2 Gifters and then defeated

No, false.
Headcannon.

 

[Finalbeta]

He needed to defeat Pica, and he couldn't land a hit on him. Ofc he should worry in that situation. And finally he lost his opponent and couldn't stop him from leaving the mountain. He needed help to reach him even.

You don't only need to use your strongest moves when your life is in danger, you need to use it when you can't deal with the opponent you are facing with the might you are using. If you want to defeat X and your current attacks are not reaching him, you should use something better IF YOU HAVE.
Should I explain why breathing keep people alive too?

That's not how anime works.

There are countless characters that don't go all out all the time if they feel that their opponent doesn't require them to go and they prefer to waste time too.

I could make many examples but if you have knowledge you should know.

 

[Welkin]

Zoro is destroying Apoo 1v1 with flying slashes, he won’t even need Asura

Apoo literally dodged Zoro's flying slashes on panel though. That's far from enough to take him out.

 

[CbShadow]

Because Drake and Zoro were on his nutsack before he even realized it. Check chapter 991. Apoo didn't even realize they were coming after him till it was too late. Also, as far as we know Zoro isn't exactly the fastest runner on the crew. His attacks are fast but he has to be in range to even use them. If the fight starts and there's some space between them Zoro can't just use his moves.

Zoro had Apoo running scared just on his pound cannon.


This would have been a perfect time to use a music attack against Zoro and Drake but he couldn't because they were too fast.

That was at a slower speed then the speed he displayed in the current chapter.

 

[Ice devil slayer]

If it does happen, it'll happen likely after Luffy wins with a final blow but who cares. Its still a huge moment if it does.

Tbh, taking down Kaido (and maybe Linlin) SHOULD be a combined effort. These characters are not strong enough to handle a 1v1 alone with these 2 and still have a variety of other strong opponents to deal with after Wano.

Oda is making Kaido, the world's strongest, go down first because he likely wanted to employ an "Oars-type" fight to the mix. Blackbeard/Shanks/Akainu/Im may all be 1v1 fights with Luffy in the end, so it makes sense that this happens.

Zoro actually beheading Kaido is symbolic because it IS what Ryuuma did hundreds of years prior, and we will probably learn that they are connected via the Shimotsuki clan in 10-20 chapters anyway.

No johns to Sanji fans, this is just a plot device that has been set up by Oda. Im actually more interested to see how Big Mom factors into all of this or how this Rocks plot is gonna grow because that has also been set up by Oda.

I think more players are showing up on mainland Wano soon (former Rocks pirates, former WB pirates, Big Mom Pirates, etc). Kaido wasn't a "world of violence" so this is how you achieve it. I think this war is gonna be nuts

Agreed im starting to think that it might be like in punk hazard you know ?

Luffy punches the hell out of Kaido and Zoro comes in the end and take his head off

Oda is repeating the whole Ryuma story all over again lol

Either that or Zoro reopen Kaido's wound to give Luffy an advantage in the fight

 

[PurpleSwordsman]

In the previous spoiler/chapter thread, Zoroliebers.
Zoro vs BM!
Zoro will stall BM!
Etc.

Reality, Zoro in this chapter:
"Zoro: Thank goodness, I thought we were gonna have to deal with her rampage here again....!! "
:queenhear:

 

[Monster Luffy]

On other side, it looks like post skip Sanji became an venting tool for Oda. He releases all his stress/frustrations on Sanji whenever he wants. It is quite unfortunate.

 

[Blother Fertitta]

Apoo literally dodged Zoro's flying slashes on panel though. That's far from enough to take him out.

APapapappapapap Check irrrouttte continuing autistic noises

 

[Peroroncino]

I'm not downplaying Zoro that's literally just how it works. Apoo is a supernova just like Zoro is. He isn't weak. Tell me something I said that's wrong. Did he have Kidd reeling? Yes. Did he knock Luffy out? Yes. Do you want the panels?

Yet here you are pretending Zoro can't put something on his ears because the super fast speedster apoo is not gonna let him

 

[Welkin]

Yet apparantly Apoo let Drake get really close to him.

Apparantly in your eyes Zoro isnt fast enough to pick up something and put it in his ears, but fast enough to land a "Sneak Attack" on Apoo

Read 991. Apoo was NOT focused on Zoro or Drake at the moment. They were literally fighting each other in the same chapter. How was Apoo supposed to know they'd go from supposed enemies to allies in a literal second?

 

[Paperchampion23]

Straight up that if Kaido is trying to start this whole "world of violence" thing, bringing Onigashima to Wano isn't enough to signify that. He was trying to make it a haven for pirates, not just his own. We need more participants on this war if that's the case

- Big Mom Pirates
- Former Rocks Pirates
- Whitebeard Remnants
- Sword


Bring them all. Its now or never to really escalate this war into something bigger. If the Rocks plot is meant to be addressed here, this is how it should happen. Its been a few days since Kaido/BM made that alliance so I wouldn't be surprised if they sent someone out to recruit them. Funny enough, I think they are the impel down escapees that Sengoku talked about. Last we heard was from Jean Ango (the bounty hunter at Dressrosa), they were ALL situated in one location, indicating they formed a group. This could very well be them.

Then you have the BMP who should technically show up on Wano now if they used the Hakumai entrance potentially. You can also counteract the number of antagonists by having the rest of the Whitebeard captains and allied captains showing up

 

[sidestreetboy]

In the previous spoiler/chapter thread, Zoroliebers.
Zoro vs BM!
Zoro will stall BM!
Etc.

Reality, Zoro in this chapter:
"Zoro: Thank goodness, I thought we were gonna have to deal with her rampage here again....!! "
:queenhear:

 

[imacub]

Uncovering them to strike is still uncovering them. Apoo had Kidd reeling with one attack and he even managed to knock Luffy out. Taking even one attack from Apoo is dangerous. Why would he allow them to put something in their ears? If Apoo has a brain he'll attack while they're trying to put it in. Also, finding something that completely blocks out sound isn't easy.

yet he couldnt do so to Drake, zoro was fast enough to left Drake in shook, why wouldnt zoro be fast enough to land a blow without getting hit by Apoo? if you're still deflecting, Zoro could just cover his ears with his hands and find a building where sounds can't get through so he would be able to cover his ears with something