Fanclub Holy Cathedral to the Sword Gods
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I'd wish Oda would go into a bit more detail on swordsmanship. I could understand giving it a back seat in previous arcs, but 50 chapters into Wano, and all we have are just implicated details. For example, we don't know the full extent of how swordsman in the Wano country utilize their haki imbued swords, or even as to how one makes a black blade. To not have any of this elaborated by the half century mar is kinda disappointing. Though I understand the focus is to prepare for the war, the lack of info regarding swordsmanship this arc is alarming. Especially since Zoro's been playing a pretty prominent role.
Those are going to be long answers and I'm just a little burnt out on those at the moment.
In short form? I like Mihawk's style and independence, despite being a Shichibukai, he never comes across as lesser to anyone. He's always off by himself and has an air of importance about him. I like Zoro mostly for his relationship with the Straw Hat's pre time skip. He's funny, loyal and reliable. I dislike his current attitude problem he's had since Saboady and it feels like he barely cares about anything anymore.
In short form? I like Mihawk's style and independence, despite being a Shichibukai, he never comes across as lesser to anyone. He's always off by himself and has an air of importance about him. I like Zoro mostly for his relationship with the Straw Hat's pre time skip. He's funny, loyal and reliable. I dislike his current attitude problem he's had since Saboady and it feels like he barely cares about anything anymore.
I’m pretty much in the same boat when it comes to Zoro but for me the problem is less about Zoro’s apathy and more along the lines of his lack of emotional challenges. Zoro has been responsible for some of the most memorable moments in the series - his promise to Luffy at Baratie, the X tribute to Vivi, ‘nothing happened’ and bowing down to Mihawk for Luffy’s sake. But most of that seems to have fallen by the wayside since the timeskip. I would’ve liked to see him bond more with Yasu, Momo, Hiyori and Toko since children seem to be Zoro’s soft spot.
I like Mihawk because he seems so normal. Here is one of the strongest dudes in the verse chilling in his garden, growing cabbages and drinking tea in his spare time. He doesn’t care about dumbass territory wars, conspiracies or living up to other people’s legacies, he just wants to enjoy life. Zoro felt a lot more like that pre timeskip as well but it kind of feels like he and Mihawk have swapped personalities.
I like Mihawk because he seems so normal. Here is one of the strongest dudes in the verse chilling in his garden, growing cabbages and drinking tea in his spare time. He doesn’t care about dumbass territory wars, conspiracies or living up to other people’s legacies, he just wants to enjoy life. Zoro felt a lot more like that pre timeskip as well but it kind of feels like he and Mihawk have swapped personalities.
I think off-screening the "Snatch" situation between Momo and Zoro hurts their relationship, especially if Oda wants to push it forward. I can't remember this happening in the manga, could've missed it, but from what I know currently it seems like something Oda just invented. Seeing it planned a little better, or having Zoro say or do something like this earlier in the series as opposed to being informed that this is apart of his very early training doesn't really jive too well with me. Seems like a tacky add on.
One of the best parts about Mihawk is how he's the straight man in the Shichibukai. Every other Shichibukai has some nefarious plan or rides the line between ally of the marine and pirate (Boa and Moriah especially). But Mihawk just hunts pirates to pass the time and joined, not because he wants to be a king of any thriving country or for an ancient weapon, but out of boredom. He had nothing else to do. How surprisingly relatable he is in that strange (but great) group makes him more interesting to me.
Most of those work for me until you get to FMI. That just doesn't jive. Feels like Oda is trying too hard, and knowing that Zoro hasn't even received a proper challenge still in 400 chapters irks me. Albeit, Monet's is generally cool, thanks to the characters in play and that Monet had a bit of a character herself.
One of the best parts about Mihawk is how he's the straight man in the Shichibukai. Every other Shichibukai has some nefarious plan or rides the line between ally of the marine and pirate (Boa and Moriah especially). But Mihawk just hunts pirates to pass the time and joined, not because he wants to be a king of any thriving country or for an ancient weapon, but out of boredom. He had nothing else to do. How surprisingly relatable he is in that strange (but great) group makes him more interesting to me.
These are some of the very cool, and enjoyable moments I like. Of course there are many more, these were just a quick few I found.
Yeah I agree, at least with Sanji’s backstory, the hints were there since Jaya. For Zoro, it seems like Oda just added in ‘sunacchi’ as an afterthought. I also wish Oda would’ve shown Zoro’s reaction to Hiyori saying that she wants to personally kill Orochi. I think Oda is indeed pushing them as a couple, but the awkward offscreening disrupts the flow and feels unnatural.
All the constant plotting and scheming from the yonko, admiral, supernova and Revo factions sometimes get old. That’s why I like chill characters like Aokiji, Ray and Mihawk. They’re not slaves to an ideology, they’re very strong but use that strength to maintain their freedom rather than oppress or enslave others. That’s the life if you ask me.
All the constant plotting and scheming from the yonko, admiral, supernova and Revo factions sometimes get old. That’s why I like chill characters like Aokiji, Ray and Mihawk. They’re not slaves to an ideology, they’re very strong but use that strength to maintain their freedom rather than oppress or enslave others. That’s the life if you ask me.
Even if we don't like it Oda can do such with Zoro so easily cuz we barely knew something about his past .
It's like Oda having a free pass and not restrictions (there is almost no stuff to restrict Oda doing wild or doubtful moves) to shape Zoro past.
Aside such....
I think Zoro having emotional challenges now would be so out of place after what he showed preTS it's like such gap is already filled completely.
Ultimately I think it would be like taking a step back.
Maybe this is what restrains Oda it would be like shaking something already established like put in question all his promises or something.
It's like Oda having a free pass and not restrictions (there is almost no stuff to restrict Oda doing wild or doubtful moves) to shape Zoro past.
Aside such....
I think Zoro having emotional challenges now would be so out of place after what he showed preTS it's like such gap is already filled completely.
Ultimately I think it would be like taking a step back.
Maybe this is what restrains Oda it would be like shaking something already established like put in question all his promises or something.
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