[FNZ] Role Madness Round 19: Punk Hazard One Piece

[Natalija]

@Natalija what's your stance on the fact Flower knew your alignment on D1 with actual info? And how is it even remotely feasible that she got a night ability that looks cop-like too on top of that? And how come her character is still not even remotely guessed by the town?

My stance is if I was vig you’d already be dead

 

[Rej]

@Gambit maybe in a future game we gonna be one team

 

[Zemmi]

also I am sorry for my activity, I try to not put too much time into mafia for now, but I still try to have a precise playstyle, so this is why I might off come as tunnelish or incomplete

Me!! I told myself if I ever played mafia again I wouldn't be as involved in games and consume my very being but it seems I'm falling back down on that path very rapidly, I think I missed it lol.

 

[Finalbeta]

@Rej wait so you are not even sure he is 100% confirmed scum to begin with... since you say "if he flips town" but you as well are saying he lied about transporting.

Isn't this a paradox? If he lied about an ability Gambit is meant to be 100% confirmed scum. So you are not even sure he lied in the first place.

Are you slipping or something here?

 

[Rej]

Me!! I told myself if I ever played mafia again I wouldn't be as involved in games and consume my very being but it seems I'm falling back down on that path very rapidly, I think I missed it lol.

Yes, also I started to play Genshin Impact (Gacha Game) a week ago, and yesterday from day start to the point I posted I got heavily sink in Genshin Impact. lmao

anyway I just wanna point out that upon a Gambit mafia flip we could most likely expect that he got bussed because the resistance is quite weak and the lynch is heavily conscious.

 

[Natalija]

Yes, also I started to play Genshin Impact (Gacha Game) a week ago, and yesterday from day start to the point I posted I got heavily sink in Genshin Impact. lmao

anyway I just wanna point out that upon a Gambit mafia flip we could most likely expect that he got bussed because the resistance is quite weak and the lynch is heavily conscious.

If he’s mafia of course he got bussed. Every smart scummate would do so to a sinking ship, just wondering if some would do it last minute like Zem

 

[Rej]

@Rej wait so you are not even sure he is 100% confirmed scum to begin with... since you say "if he flips town" but you as well are saying he lied about transporting.

Isn't this a paradox? If he lied about an ability Gambit is meant to be 100% confirmed scum. So you are not even sure he lied in the first place.

Are you slipping or something here?

no, I think I misused the term "if" there, also idk

First of his night claim doesn't make sense, and I don't know how it makes any sense in a scenario where he is town. Even if he is town which is like a 0.1 chance to be, then his night action would have no benefit for him and his faction.

I just talk in the if-form to look at scenarios, but I won't stop any lynch if there is this 0.1-1% chance of whatever.
And yeah if the scenario ever should happen that he flips town and his lynch was really caused by big framing attempts, then I would like to reserve a claim spot, because it would help me to explain not only just one night, but 2 nights then.

 

[Finalbeta]

no, I think I misused the term "if" there, also idk

First of his night claim doesn't make sense, and I don't know how it makes any sense in a scenario where he is town. Even if he is town which is like a 0.1 chance to be, then his night action would have no benefit for him and his faction.

I just talk in the if-form to look at scenarios, but I won't stop any lynch if there is this 0.1-1% chance of whatever.
And yeah if the scenario ever should happen that he flips town and his lynch was really caused by big framing attempts, then I would like to reserve a claim spot, because it would help me to explain not only just one night, but 2 nights then.

Well what I can see say is that Gambit is claiming an ability that looks totally Law. He basically claimed "Shambles" and I doubt the hosts would not insert it when crafting this game setup.

Furthermore, as we know the real Law could counterclaim Gambit anytime if that was the case.

Switching you of all players surely proves odd however, unless he deemed you as suspicious.

 

[Zemmi]

If he’s mafia of course he got bussed. Every smart scummate would do so to a sinking ship, just wondering if some would do it last minute like Zem

Last minute? What do you mean?

As I was thinking though, I do believe Gambit is scum 100% because of his reaction to Flower, but you know it's not hard for scum to find opposing scum in game and lynch them for town credit

 

[Marimo_420]

How many transporters are in one game btw? Look at Sanji's abilities.

Is it supposed a unique role town?

If it is, is Gambit lying.

UNVOTE @RayanOO @Yo Tan Wa
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[Zemmi]

Oh nvm I misread you @Natalija but yea I'm still town the last time I checked.
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Also not to poke a hole in your theory or nothing, I believe I was the one who was very confused why everyone was picking midnight between him and Gambit, since it didn't make sense to me since there was no evidence at the time that pointed one or the other being guilty nor innocent but everyone seemed so confident it was midnight over Gambit, I think if Gambit is scum, which I believe him to be I would be more curious about those who quickly were saying midnight was the scum out of the two.

 

[Flower]

This DP is a lot more productive than the last, I like this.

Btw @Rej I'm playing Genshin Impact, too. So happy I pulled Zhongli from the banner, but I'm stuck at AR 35 still.

 

[Natalija]

Oh nvm I misread you @Natalija but yea I'm still town the last time I checked.
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Also not to poke a hole in your theory or nothing, I believe I was the one who was very confused why everyone was picking midnight between him and Gambit, since it didn't make sense to me since there was no evidence at the time that pointed one or the other being guilty nor innocent but everyone seemed so confident it was midnight over Gambit, I think if Gambit is scum, which I believe him to be I would be more curious about those who quickly were saying midnight was the scum out of the two.

Meh why pick? It can be both, you realise that, right?

I just hope we finally get a lynch and see.

 

[Finalbeta]

I don't see Midnight lying. That would be very dumb of a scum to force their way through a third claim (totally unnecessary since Midnight was not the leading wagon) knowing beforehand that could have meant modkill, unless he was dense enough to act in complete spite of his team.

Furthermore, Smoker should be the jailor.

 

[Zemmi]

Meh why pick? It can be both, you realise that, right?

I just hope we finally get a lynch and see.

I already said it could be both too, but I was just talking about your theory about me bussing someone which I do not believe in unless, the scum mate I have is a huge liability that I can't outplay.
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I don't see Midnight lying. That would be very dumb of a scum to force their way through a third claim (totally unnecessary since Midnight was not the leading wagon) knowing beforehand that could have meant modkill, unless he was dense enough to act in complete spite of his team.

Furthermore, Smoker should be the jailor.

I actually don't think it means one way or another, I don't believe he was paying attention. No town would get themselves modkilled either. I think you are overthinking that entire thing and it was nothing but an oversite of his.

btw does he play regularly here and if he does can someone give me more detail of how he plays as town vs scum?

 

[Marimo_420]

I don't see Midnight lying. That would be very dumb of a scum to force their way through a third claim (totally unnecessary since Midnight was not the leading wagon) knowing beforehand that could have meant modkill, unless he was dense enough to act in complete spite of his team.

Midnight hadn't caught up lol.

Furthermore, Smoker should be the jailor.

True.

Also a question the experienced peeps. How many transporters should town have? Is it a unique role?

 

[Natalija]

I already said it could be both too, but I was just talking about your theory about me bussing someone which I do not believe in unless, the scum mate I have is a huge liability that I can't outplay.

Yes. If Gambit isn’t a huge liability, I dunno what is.

 

[Zemmi]

Midnight hadn't caught up lol.



True.

Also a question the experienced peeps. How many transporters should town have? Is it a unique role?

Tbh they can have more than one but the question is how likely it is, in this small of a game I would say unlikely.
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Yes. If Gambit isn’t a huge liability, I dunno what is.

Really? He use to be a pretty decent scum player on OJ.

 

[Natalija]

Really? He use to be a pretty decent scum player on OJ.

In this game he’s obviously a ticking bomb that’s going to get lynched

 

[Zemmi]

Fun fact for you guys though when @Dragomir was still kinda new to mafia, we were on a scum team and he was messing me up so bad, and we were the only two left from our team I finally did buss him and luckily though I managed to hold out and win that game Sure people still hate me for that game and I'm sure Drago now hates me for telling you all about it lol.
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In this game he’s obviously a ticking bomb that’s going to get lynched

Ok fair enough, but I do think I should ask you if you really think I'm scum in this game? It would be curious to get that answer.