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I believe he had stage 2 barrier Ryuo, not stage 3 penetration Ryuo. The Yakuza boss only has barrier.
Kaido said the scabbards had the same Ryuo, but they don't have penetration Ryuo.
Plus circumstantial evidence of Oden dying in chains.
This is to hype Luffy as going beyond Kaido's previous nemesis Oden.
What are you talking about, am I forgetting something?

Basic haki is the shield style "barrier" thing you're talking about, then stage 2 buso is hardening, where you actually bolster the limbs/weapon itself instead of "coating it" in armor, you make the actual thing it's used on armor itself (which is the black coating). Sanji has level 1 barrier buso, zoro and luffy have buso hardening (along with tons of others who are either top commander leveled, or who specialize it and are don sai+ leveled.

Ryuou as we know it is pushing the haki OUTWARD like an energy blast, not an armor or hardening.

Oden objectively had ryuou, he grew up in the country that literally invented it, and is the strongest mf'er there, and every single one of his scabbards had it, and the only person who could teach rayleigh it cuz it's wano based, is Oden, so he'd have to know it.

Didn't Kaidou said they all have ryuou, but it was just weaker than Oden's?

Honestly speaking, Kaidou is going down by a group effort. Luffy will eventually surpass Oden, but meh, not yet.
 
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How would oda predict who takes sales over who
Lol. You serious rn xD?

He has a whole team for every type of shit. His media. His money income and etc. You really think they wouldn't tell him that the most sales are made off Nami simps and kids for choppah?
 
Based off of what did you decide Oven was "much stronger" than Tamago?

I mean here on this site we say "Zoro is a fighter so obviously he's stronger", why does Tamago not get the same priv?
It was kind of obvious that Daifuku and Oven were stronger than Tamago. Capone hyped those two up alongside the top commanders and perospero as monsters, Ichiji > Niji > Sanji, with or without raid suits (as long as both have or don't have it in the fight). Oven kept fighting through Ichiji's goring of him and did stuff like take an explosion point blank to his face with no defense.

Oven literally only looked bad against people who are top commander leveled, or cheap shots (like sanji's cheap shot on him when he didn't know sanji even existed on the same island as him and was focused on pound), etc.

Oven > Pedro > Tamago, Tamago was endlessly cut down by Pedro.
 
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