You know what, you did a decent job making me not 100% dismiss this happening.
I could see something like Kaido and Luffy double KO each other and Kaido have just enough strength to launch one more Boros Breath at Luffy or some other attack, and Zoro saving Luffy by cutting him down.
If it happens though, it will be after Zoro defeats King. He just makes his way back in time to save Luffy
There's a difference.
When you are at the start of Wano, you don't have much to go off of for matchups. That's why saying Zoro fights King simply because he has a sword is okay at the beginning of the arc. However, now that you are 90+ chapters deep and there is foreshadowing for a completely different matchup and none for Zoro v King. Asking for Zoro v King after all the new info we've gotten sounds a bit greedy.
- Zoro's dream is to become the WSS
- he always fights the strongest swordsman
- King is the strongest swordsman currently present in Wano
- Zoro always fights the main antagonist's strongest man
- King is the main antagonist's strongest man
Why would we need a heavy build up with such an obvious pattern ? Also, where was the build up for Zoro vs Daz Bones ? Zoro vs Ohm ? Zoro vs Ryuma ? Zoro vs Pica ? They just met and fought. I guess you could say it's different this time because there has been heavy build up for something else, which is Zoro vs Kaido. Ok, but why do the two things have to be mutually exclusive ? Did people forget Skypiea ? Zoro faced Enel, then Ohm interrupted the fight and Zoro fought him, then he returned to his fight against Enel after defeating Ohm. What does prevent a similar scenario from reoccuring ?
- Zoro's dream is to become the WSS
- he always fights the strongest swordsman
- King is the strongest swordsman currently present in Wano
- Zoro always fights the main antagonist's strongest man
- King is the main antagonist's strongest man
Why would we need a heavy build up with such an obvious pattern ? Also, where was the build up for Zoro vs Daz Bones ? Zoro vs Ohm ? Zoro vs Ryuma ? Zoro vs Pica ? They just met and fought. I guess you could say it's different this time because there has been heavy build up for something else, which is Zoro vs Kaido. Ok, but why do the two things have to be mutually exclusive ? Did people forget Skypiea ? Zoro faced Enel, then Ohm interrupted the fight and Zoro fought him, then he returned to his fight against Enel after defeating Ohm. What does prevent a similar scenario from reoccuring ?
Technically, yes, but she's not a main antagonist, just a secondary one. Wano is about the battle against Kaido and his crew. Zoro's main fight in Dressrosa was against Pica, not Fujitora.
Technically, yes, but she's not a main antagonist, just a secondary one. Wano is about the battle against Kaido and his crew. Zoro's main fight in Dressrosa was against Pica, not Fujitora.
She was the main antagonist in WCI, Wano is about Beast Pirates. Big Mom is basically like a guest, this war and the story revolving around it doesn't have anything to do with her.
Yes, he wants to fight Kaido this time but this isn't a question of fighting Kaido or not. The fight is happening anyway. It has more to do with what King will do.
None of these directly apply to King, however. In fact, two of the Emperors at the top use fire as well. Kin'emon's fire cutting technique, the one Zoro was interested in, was used against Kaido.
Addendum: I think the fire sword bit is a mistranslation. If anyone has the raws, it would be appreciated.
Sure, that's assuming we are following the general structure for a villain group. A leader, 2 (maybe 3) strong subordinates. And a bunch of lesser subordinates.
That's also assuming the ones doing the fighting are the straw hats.
These two things are already not the case.
Here, we have 2 leaders, 2 remaining strong subordinates + (F6) vs 6 supernovas, Scabbards (before they got defeated), and Marco.
This isn't like your conventional arc, the straw hats don't lineup perfectly against the opponents.
So using the old recipe for matchups is a bit useless.
None of these directly apply to King, however. In fact, two of the Emperors at the top use fire as well. Kin'emon's fire cutting technique, the one Zoro was interested in, was used against Kaido.
Addendum: I think the fire sword bit is a mistranslation. If anyone has the raws, it would be appreciated.
Wrong. Big Mom is the strongest swordman currently present in Wano.
However, I don't see you or much people pushing for Zoro vs Big Mom. A bit weird.
Sure, that's assuming we are following the general structure for a villain group. A leader, 2 (maybe 3) strong subordinates. And a bunch of lesser subordinates.
That's also assuming the ones doing the fighting are the straw hats.
These two things are already not the case.
Here, we have 2 leaders, 2 remaining strong subordinates + (F6) vs 6 supernovas, Scabbards (before they got defeated), and Marco.
This isn't like your conventional arc, the straw hats don't lineup perfectly against the opponents.
So using the old recipe for matchups is a bit useless.
Using the same conventions is also how we ended up with Luffy vs Big Mom and Sanji vs Katakuri back in WCI. Instead we got Luffy vs Katakuri and the rest of the Strawhats vs Big Mom.
Yes, Oda has a formula, and it's usually the safe bet, but he doesn't have to adhere to it, and all points lead to he won't on Wano just like with WCI.
This isn't like your conventional arc, the straw hats don't lineup perfectly against the opponents.
So using the old recipe for matchups is a bit useless.
Actually, they kind of do don't they. Look at what Oda's doing with all the high ranking Beast Pirates :
Page One vs Usopp
Ulti vs Nami
Who's Who vs Jimbe
Black Maria currently vs Sanji, with Robin and Brook running through the castle and likely to insert themselves into that match-up.
Queen claiming that they should first defeat the strongest SH's while holding Zoro's and Sanjis bounty posters, and going ahead to single Sanji out as someone he's interested in because of his family
It's pretty much falling into place perfectly for that formula, with Oda pushing everyone who is not a SH away from the Flying Six, and leaving King and Queen for Zoro and Sanji.
Wrong. Big Mom is the strongest swordman currently present in Wano.
However, I don't see you or much people pushing for Zoro vs Big Mom. A bit weird.
Sure, that's assuming we are following the general structure for a villain group. A leader, 2 (maybe 3) strong subordinates. And a bunch of lesser subordinates.
That's also assuming the ones doing the fighting are the straw hats.
These two things are already not the case.
Here, we have 2 leaders, 2 remaining strong subordinates + (F6) vs 6 supernovas, Scabbards (before they got defeated), and Marco.
This isn't like your conventional arc, the straw hats don't lineup perfectly against the opponents.
So using the old recipe for matchups is a bit useless.
Would the hints make more sense for someone who's famed around the world with a Fire Epithet, or just dealing with Yonko gimmicks like Brook already did in WCI, or Kinemon earlier this arc.
Apparenly he's going to defeat no swordsman of worth in the country of Ryuma/ Oden.
Using the same conventions is also how we ended up with Luffy vs Big Mom and Sanji vs Katakuri back in WCI. Instead we got Luffy vs Katakuri and the rest of the Strawhats vs Big Mom.
Yes, Oda has a formula, and it's usually the safe bet, but he doesn't have to adhere to it, and all points lead to he won't on Wano just like with WCI.
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Fire is still fire. If Zoro cut Kaido's Boro breath or Linlin's Prometheus, would it go against those "hints?"
Yes, King is a swordsman, but Zoro doesn't have to fight every single one.
No, that's a false equivalence. WCI was never about fighting Big Mom, it was about retrieving Sanji and stealing a Poneglyph. Wano is about fighting and defeating Kaido.
Would the hints make more sense for someone who's famed around the world with a Fire Epithet, or just dealing with Yonko gimmicks like Brook already did in WCI, or Kinemon earlier this arc.
Well just picture it. Is it a bigger moment to cut through Kings ultimate Fire Sword attack and defeat him as the culmination of those hints that were sprinkled through out hundreds of chapter, or he does something that Kinemon already did without being that big of a deal.
Apparently not. We don't know a single swordsman of note defeated by Mihawk and he's holding the title
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