Future Events Implication of Luffy and Zoro having similar showings

[Sword God Ryuma]

If Zoro and Luffy have similar power showing against same opponents does that mean that Zoro was stronger before. If Zoro pulls out stuff from his training previously and Ashura and do similar thing to Luffy thats the only conclusion.

Luffy went through alot more intense/extreme situation than Zoro. He fought Doffy,Cracker,Katakuri and started training like a week before Zoro. He gained FS, 2 level of Haki and physically stronger.
Zoro fought Scrubs except Killer and trained with Enma(Same rank has his previous sword) for only 5 days(Luffy trained for 2 weeks).

This means Zoro would of been stronger then Luffy since FI.

 

[Midnight Delight]

It just means that Oda fucked up

The Strawhats will get powerups which will make all the fights and training Luffy did feel pointless

 

[rerere]

except Killer

Oh my god, someone who can read

 

[Ice devil slayer]

Just wanna see Zoro performing well against Kaido while Pre udon Luffy got his shit rocked

 

[Steven]

Oda fucked up,nothing more,nothing less

 

[Finalbeta]

It's pretty much the fulcrum of most of my explanations @Sword God Ryuma

Very good job.

 

[Monster Luffy]

No dude. Unlike us Oda didn't and will never give shit about such things. Look what Kinemon did to Kaido when he was fucked up all the way from Punk Hazard to Wano. I mean unless you believe that Doflamingo was stronger than Kaido since Kinemon was unable to do anything to Doflamingo and unable to cut birdcage etc. Oh and Killer is also stronger because he is also fighting Kaido straight away and so does Law. Anyways read 1000 chapters of one piece and still making dumb implications only Zoro fan things.

 

[sanjikun]

Yes, this is deliberate by Oda. Anybody with more than 4 brain cells can tell Zoro was stronger than Luffy after the time skip until WCI. Oda didn't fuck up. A guy who plans far ahead in the future didn't forget to think about his second fav character. Sure his execution can be sloppy sometimes but that has nothing to with his planning.

And there is nothing wrong with Zoro being stronger than Luffy. Oda never undermined Luffy that's why he didn't show Zoro go all out and that's what matters.

Get a fucking mirror. No serious crew has a subordinate who is stronger than their captain. This is the most basic tenet of One Piece. Stop being a moron.

Zoro has done nothing in Wano to put him over fucking Killer so far. That dude looked straight up trash. Pica > Killer so far.

No dude. Unlike us Oda didn't and will never give shit about such things. Look what Kinemon did to Kaido when he was fucked up all the way from Punk Hazard to Wano. I mean unless you believe that Doflamingo was stronger than Kaido since Kinemon was unable to do anything to Doflamingo and unable to cut birdcage etc. Oh and Killer is also stronger because he is also fighting Kaido straight away and so does Law. Anyways read 1000 chapters of one piece and still making dumb implications only Zoro fan things.

Wtf does any of this mean? When did Kinemon land a hit on Doflamingo's body?

 

[CbShadow]

Oh my god, someone who can read

So Fujitora, Apoo and Hawkins are scrubs?

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Get a fucking mirror. No serious crew has a subordinate who is stronger than their captain. This is the most basic tenet of One Piece. Stop being a moron.

Zoro has done nothing in Wano to put him over fucking Killer so far. That dude looked straight up trash. Pica > Killer so far.



Wtf does any of this mean? When did Kinemon land a hit on Doflamingo's body?

The hate is real.

Here you go:

Strongest?

Zoro fought the following:
Fujitora - held his own against him and fought him a 2nd time

Pica - beat Pica who was at least as strong as Vergo

Hawkins - beat Hawkins in their short clash who was using a card to go beyond his limits. Hawkins thought his power would be strong enough to take on 2 worst generation members.

Killer - blitzed and oneshot Killer, who would have increased his strength since he was fighting to protect his captain and keep him alive.

Apoo - blitzed and KO Apoo with a frontal attack. Broke through his strong defense that Drake couldn't break and move too fast for Drake to follow his movement.

None of them, except Fujitora, looked very impressive against Zoro because he was too strong for them. That's what happens when you face Zoro using a sword style attack compared to just using swords.

 

[Khing]

Does it matter

 

[Hades]

No need to get so defensive. I'm sure you have more than 4 brain cells. And on my points all I have to do is wait and they'll be proven true.

They won't become true even of you wait because your point was the point of someone with less than 4 brain cells to begin with. I mean forget about Zoro, even Kid, Killer was not shown fight and Law who was lost to Doflamingo even when Doflamingo didn't go all out is now fighting Kaido. So by your below 4 braincell logic they all must be stronger than Luffy before WCI.....

 

[sanjikun]

No need to get so defensive. I'm sure you have more than 4 brain cells. And on my points all I have to do is wait and they'll be proven true. On the other hand you'll have better odds with lottery than betting on your headcanon becoming real.

You don't have to wait for anything. There will NEVER be a subordinate stronger than their captain on any serious crew.

Please fucking pinpoint any of the heavyweights. Which have a subordinate stronger than their captain? Roger? WB? BM? Kaido? Kid? Law? Get a grip on reality. A captain is a captain for a reason.

 

[Jiihad]

Lmfao I swea tha last chapter go ***** not knowing how to feel or act

 

[HA001]

They won't become true even of you wait because your point was the point of someone with less than 4 brain cells to begin with. I mean forget about Zoro, even Kid, Killer was not shown fight and Law who was lost to Doflamingo even when Doflamingo didn't go all out is now fighting Kaido. So by your below 4 braincell logic they all must be stronger than Luffy before WCI.....

But none of them 3 are set to surpass this at minimum(3 commander level attacks and kinemon combined)

and be compared to oden something which is a million miles above wci luffys paygrade

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Lmfao I swea tha last chapter go ***** not knowing how to feel or act

They actually thought deep in their hearts that zoro wouldnt fight kaido sanjikun still doesnt

 

[Hades]

and be compared to oden something which is a million miles above wci luffys paygrade

Yeah but it will be given by Wano Zoro not the Zoro from timeskip or Zoro during WCI....

 

[HA001]

Yeah but it will be given by Wano Zoro not the Zoro from timeskip or Zoro during WCI....

You cant have it both ways bro
you cant point to all of luffys tough fights and power ups to say he was above zoro
then say zoros grown too when hes doing something above well above pre udon luffy
Only difference with zoro is he swapped one graded sword for another

 

[Hades]

You cant have it both ways bro
you cant point to all of luffys tough fights and power ups to say he was above zoro
then say zoros grown too when hes doing something above well above pre udon luffy
Only difference with zoro is he swapped one graded sword for another

Only tough fight Luffy had was Katakuri where whatever in his arsenal was not sufficient to defeat him but that was not case with Doflamingo or Cracker....not just Zoro, everyone grows, Kidd and Killer who didn't have any extreme fights post skip, Law who was defeated by Doflamingo without awakening (now he can do bigger rooms without consuming much energy), just that Zoro grows more, ....that is just mechanics of One Piece, Franky who had troubles with one of the Doflamingo subordinates now fighting against Sasaki and may even pull win....

 

[sanjikun]

Only tough fight Luffy had was Katakuri where whatever in his arsenal was not sufficient to defeat him but that was not case with Doflamingo or Cracker....not just Zoro, everyone grows, Kidd and Killer who didn't have any extreme fights post skip, Law who was defeated by Doflamingo without awakening (now he can do bigger rooms without consuming much energy), just that Zoro grows more, ....that is just mechanics of One Piece, Franky who had troubles with one of the Doflamingo subordinates now fighting against Sasaki and may even pull win....

Wtf? He literally took down Doflamingo with Law's help.

 

[Jew D. Boy]

Does it matter

This should have gotten more play earlier, and I think you’re right; who gives a shit what it means at this point? Luffy and Zoro both belong on the roof, and evidently, so do Law/Kid/Killer. We’re WAAAY too deep in the series to wonder how or why any of them got there or what it means for the others, we’re here now and we’ll see what each of them has got

 

[HA001]

Only tough fight Luffy had was Katakuri where whatever in his arsenal was not sufficient to defeat him but that was not case with Doflamingo or Cracker....not just Zoro, everyone grows, Kidd and Killer who didn't have any extreme fights post skip, Law who was defeated by Doflamingo without awakening (now he can do bigger rooms without consuming much energy), just that Zoro grows more, ....that is just mechanics of One Piece, Franky who had troubles with one of the Doflamingo subordinates now fighting against Sasaki and may even pull win....

He had 3 tough fights where he was pushed to his limit though i get the only one he got an actual power up from was kata, but he was pushed to his strongest move against doffy and fought for hours against cracker both with help. You just cant say the same for zoro.
Kidd and killer have fought the rh pirates and kidd lost an arm both have also fought kaido
law doesnt even have to have grown a millimeter in power to do damage in this fight his fruit is the ultimate team fight fruit
and once again those 3 arent set up to do something on the scale zoro will this fight.
When has the scale ever been like this in op ? If there truly is no zoro vs king (whose a yc1 btw!) then zoro is going straight in vs 2 yonko
can that really be put down to 5 day training with enma ?