Kinemon did to Kaido when he was fucked up all the way from Punk Hazard to Wano. I mean unless you believe that Doflamingo was stronger than Kaido since Kinemon was unable to do anything to Doflamingo
All of this is a lie. He was barely involved in combat during those arcs. Kin never tried to do anything to Doflamingo. Doflamingo kicked him while he was distracted tryingg to help Law and that's it.
It's getting more and more obvious each day but now the copium kicks in.
Oda fucked up, bad writing, Oda doesnt care about power levels...
Everyone who made the bet against Zoro has to go through 5 stages of grief.
Only person to push Luffy to his limits is Katakuri
Whkle it had trouble even touching Katakuri without upgrading his COo
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Brook could fight Linlin and lasted longer than Queen and Marco did ...even hurt homies
Jinbei could stall Linlin and hurt prometheus
Retainees could push kaido to mid diff
Pre Udon/fs Luffy gotta be below brook, Marco, jinbei, Retainers...coz they can hurt Yonko or homies
While he couldn't
No dude. Unlike us Oda didn't and will never give shit about such things. Look what Kinemon did to Kaido when he was fucked up all the way from Punk Hazard to Wano. I mean unless you believe that Doflamingo was stronger than Kaido since Kinemon was unable to do anything to Doflamingo and unable to cut birdcage etc. Oh and Killer is also stronger because he is also fighting Kaido straight away and so does Law. Anyways read 1000 chapters of one piece and still making dumb implications only Zoro fan things.
Imagine the BS when Sanji goes from Broken Bones against Vergo to beating Queen/King .... if Oda can do that then he can make anything happen and so it means Zoro was >>>> Luffy after Timeskip began (Current Luffy > Katakuri > Cracker > Doflamingo > After Timeskip Luffy, which means Zoro > Katakuri > Cracker > Doflamingo > After Timeskip Luffy ..... lets just ignore Enma and we would Still get Zoro > Cracker > Doflamingo > After Timeskip Luffy )
That's not an Oda thing.
Look at DBZ Raditz= One Saibaimen
Yamcha, Krillin and others Z team warrior beat them easily whereas Goku + Piccolo before training were barely enough to beat Raditz
The training of Krillin, Yamcha and other was shit
Naruto gets something like three trainings and was arguably as strong as a Kage
Most of characters were stronger than a Kage in the final war eventhough they didn't train
Your logic doesn't work on shounens as authors themselves don't follow it.
They just have MC stronger than underlings at any point of the story.
So Wa no Zoro has nothing to do with AfterTimeskip Zoro.
Even in OP it doesn't work if Ussop and Nami defeat PO and Ulti will you say they were G4 level since TS as they didn't train.
Case closed
I see. Your point is not wrong in my opinion. They could be evenly matched but not exactly equal. Still an extreme diff fight if they both went all out.
I see. Your point is not wrong in my opinion. They could be evenly matched but not exactly equal. Still an extreme diff fight if they both went all out.
So its because of your fanfiction. Thank God I thought it was something legitimate like something from the manga. Because that fight had them dead equal. And Oda showing Nami intervening also solidified that it wouldn't have gone anywhere if the fight went on.
They are pretty evenly matched in whiskey peak and in thriller bark Zoro proved he has much more endurance than Luffy, but i still think Luffy was slightly stronger in a fight, overhaull. In fact i think Sanji was prety closer to the two at enies lobby, but he fell behind again pretty fast and the gap never stoped growing.
We didnt see Zoro's capabilities in post TS yet, and until we do Luffy is ahead by default since he has beaten opponents that are stronger than the opponents Zoro faced, even if Zoro didnt stuggle against them at all.
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