Powers & Abilities Should Zoro deserve to be equal with Luffy in Strength?

[Ice devil slayer]

Doesnt matter, even if Zoro participate, its Luffy who will decide the victory and surpassing Kaidou. If Luffy has arrived in the level where he surpass WSC, then its already higher than the level Zoro strives to be which is WSS.

It does matter cause Luffy isn't gonna win alone..yes he will likely be the one to give Kaido the final blow etc but Zoro will help him heavily before that like at least reopening Kaido's scar..that would give Luffy the advantage

 

[uyuu]

It does matter cause Luffy isn't gonna win alone..yes he will likely be the one to give Kaido the final blow etc but Zoro will help him heavily before that like at least reopening Kaido's scar..that would give Luffy the advantage

It doesnt matter if Luffy wins with help, since he will also individually surpass Kaidou like he promised and like how he must surpass anyone include WSC to deserve to be PK.

 

[HA001]

It doesnt matter if Luffy wins with help, since he will also individually surpass Kaidou like he promised and like how he must surpass anyone include WSC to deserve to be PK.

If luffy doesnt solo kaido how does that put him above kaido ? That doesnt make sense.

 

[Finalbeta]

Doesnt matter, even if Zoro participate, its Luffy who will decide the victory and surpassing Kaidou. If Luffy has arrived in the level where he surpass WSC, then its already higher than the level Zoro strives to be which is WSS.

Luffy ain't even contributing much against Kaido.

Big Mom is there and she can't be slept over. She will mop the floor with Law if someone does not assist the poor guy.

 

[Shisui]

So Luffy can draw strength from knowing those people, but Zoro can't even though he knows most of them too and has other connections in Wano? Luffy saw that man get wet on tv, Zoro knew him and saw it live but that plot is just done?

Also, this is the problem in a nutshell. No amount of story or questions answered by the author will change your mind? You're saying you're gonna ignore the damn proof for which you ask.

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How is something as meaningless as Zoro isn't stronger than Luffy triggering you lot..I swr You lot are something else


What exactly is those scans of Queen meant to prove??

 

[Fn Lucci]

How is something as meaningless as Zoro isn't stronger than Luffy triggering you lot..I swr You lot are something else


What exactly is those scans of Queen meant to prove??

Lol, I'm not bothered so that sounds like projecting. You tell me how the comparison is negligible though, because it will be interesting to see how you come to that conclusion.

 

[Shisui]

Lol, I'm not bothered so that sounds like projecting. You tell me how the comparison is negligible though, because it will be interesting to see how you come to that conclusion.

I promise you it's never that deep with me...I already ended this convo a long time ago by saying I don't care who ends up stronger as long as they ain't touching my guy come EOS. I really can't be arsed to chat anymore about this..

Let's just wait and see who comes out stronger after Wano

 

[uyuu]

If luffy doesnt solo kaido how does that put him above kaido ? That doesnt make sense.

Why doesnt it? If luffy get help but he ends dominatingly defeating Kaidou, why doesnt it make sense? Luffy will surpass WSC since PK is aimed by WSC, where is that differ from Zoro aiming to surpass WSS?

Luffy ain't even contributing much against Kaido.

Big Mom is there and she can't be slept over. She will mop the floor with Law if someone does not assist the poor guy.

Aint even contributing much? Luffy promise to surpass kaidou and he casually counter-attacks Kaidou even while being distracted by Kinemon, something Oden couldnt even manage, and Luffy aint contributing much?

 

[HA001]

Why doesnt it? If luffy get help but he ends dominatingly defeating Kaidou, why doesnt it make sense? Luffy will surpass WSC since PK is aimed by WSC, where is that differ from Zoro aiming to surpass WSS?



Aint even contributing much? Luffy promise to surpass kaidou and he casually counter-attacks Kaidou even while being distracted by Kinemon, something Oden couldnt even manage, and Luffy aint contributing much?

Are you being serious ? Kaido has already fought 9 people and now is up against 5.
If zoro and 13 others beat mihawk is zoro wss ?

 

[Finalbeta]

Aint even contributing much? Luffy promise to surpass kaidou and he casually counter-attacks Kaidou even while being distracted by Kinemon, something Oden couldnt even manage, and Luffy aint contributing much?

He is not surpassing a yonko soon, it will take a bit. Also that doesn't imply he must take on Kaido, there's Big Mom too he can "do wonders" with. This is not a 5v1 but a 5v2 and each one of them 2 have to be respected or else the 5 are gonna end up doomed.

 

[uyuu]

Are you being serious ? Kaido has already fought 9 people and now is up against 5.
If zoro and 13 others beat mihawk is zoro wss ?

So you didnt count Luffy's previous fight? Luffy also fight Page 1 Ulti Big Mom Apoo etc, where's the difference if both previously fought?

You dont seem to accept this kind of things if its about Luffy. Even if Luffy gets help, if Luffy wins decisively, its surpassing Kaidou. Even if Luffy gets help, Luffy will surpass Kaidou eventually, be it in this fight or not. And since Luffy tend to finish each arc's boss decisively, surpassing WSC it is.

He is not surpassing a yonko soon, it will take a bit. Also that doesn't imply he must take on Kaido, there's Big Mom too he can "do wonders" with. This is not a 5v1 but a 5v2 and each one of them 2 have to be respected or else the 5 are gonna end up doomed.

So why do you always point Luffy to fight BM? Why not point Zoro instead?

 

[HA001]

So you didnt count Luffy's previous fight? Luffy also fight Page 1 Ulti Big Mom Apoo etc, where's the difference if both previously fought?

You dont seem to accept this kind of things if its about Luffy. Even if Luffy gets help, if Luffy wins decisively, its surpassing Kaidou. Even if Luffy gets help, Luffy will surpass Kaidou eventually, be it in this fight or not. And since Luffy tend to finish each arc's boss decisively, surpassing WSC it is.



So why do you always point Luffy to fight BM? Why not point Zoro instead?

What fights did luffy have ? He never attacked apoo once had a small skirmish with the siblings before yamato intervened and the rest were fodder as he got baby sat by sanji and jinbe taking him to the roof, kaido had a full 1vs 9 with the scabbards
kaidos dying luffy aint finishing shit.

 

[uyuu]

What fights did luffy have ? He never attacked apoo once had a small skirmish with the siblings before yamato intervened and the rest were fodder as he got baby sat by sanji and jinbe taking him to the roof, kaido had a full 1vs 9 with the scabbards
kaidos dying luffy aint finishing shit.

So if zoro promise to be WSS and Zoro takes Mihawk with 13 other people, its okay for you too if Zoro never reach that powerlevel?

The rest were fodder? Scabbards are a fodder to Luffy now, its Kaidou's fault if they can wound him even if it was just scratches.

 

[HA001]

So if zoro promise to be WSS and Zoro takes Mihawk with 13 other people, its okay for you too if Zoro never reach that powerlevel?

The rest were fodder? Scabbards are a fodder to Luffy now, its Kaidou's fault if they can wound him even if it was just scratches.

If zoro beat mihawk with 13 other people not only did he not become wss he didnt surpass mihawk

just like there was no new wsm in marineford after the bb pirates killed wb because no single person beat and killed him

 

[uyuu]

If zoro beat mihawk with 13 other people not only did he not become wss he didnt surpass mihawk

just like there was no new wsm in marineford after the bb pirates killed wb because no single person beat and killed him

Okay then, Luffy will surpass Kaidou whether he has help or not. Since his promise is to surpass WSC in order to become PK, whether he gets help or not is irrelevant since he will individually surpass WSC in strength anyway.

 

[HA001]

Okay then, Luffy will surpass Kaidou whether he has help or not. Since his promise is to surpass WSC in order to become PK, whether he gets help or not is irrelevant since he will individually surpass WSC in strength anyway.

No he said hed surpass them and become pirate king not that hed surpass them both and become pirate king this arc
he wont be individually above kaido and he wont be pirate king by the end of wano.

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

Oda protects Zoro ? I mean he launched an admiral at him and he held his ground.
He was stronger than Luffy all this time which is why he's taking a main part in defeating a Yonko. Luffy has been fighting gaining zenkai boosts to catch up bcs he didn't train hard enough in the ts.

Just because you see Zoro sleeping doesn't mean he doesn't train post ts, it's literally his hobby alongside drinking, it makes no sense for him to stop, Oda just doesn't show much background stuff again, it's no non sense, just common sense.
Also, is Mihawk training not considered a training now? lmfao

Fujitora wasn't even remotely serious, and he had Zoro coughing up blood with the same attack he used on a group of fodder earlier in the arc. Zoro had one job, and that was to save Law, and failed at it. Had Fujitora not been grateful to Luffy for helping him earlier in the arc, Zoro would have been carted away alongside Law. Protected.....

Not even addressing the "Zoro's been stronger than Luffy this whole time" nonsense of an argument, nor will I repeat myself about the background stuff.

Luffy deserves to be where he is at right now. Zoro has a lot of catching up to do. Hopefully Wano is the step in the right direction for that so he can be prepared to finally be able to stand in the ring with Mihawk come EoS.

 

[Kromage911]

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I just don't know about him being portrayed as inferior

Be it in strength or speed, Luffy's feats are much above Zoro in every way. He also has an overpowered hax ability like future sight which Zoro doesn't and can't even counter it for all we know. Portrayal is pretty subjective. It'll be after this fight with Kaido that we can know things clearly. Right now at least, Luffy is heads above Zoro, going by feats.

 

[HA001]

Fujitora wasn't even remotely serious, and he had Zoro coughing up blood with the same attack he used on a group of fodder earlier in the arc. Zoro had one job, and that was to save Law, and failed at it. Had Fujitora not been grateful to Luffy for helping him earlier in the arc, Zoro would have been carted away alongside Law. Protected.....

Not even addressing the "Zoro's been stronger than Luffy this whole time" nonsense of an argument, nor will I repeat myself about the background stuff.

Luffy deserves to be where he is at right now. Zoro has a lot of catching up to do. Hopefully Wano is the step in the right direction for that so he can be prepared to finally be able to stand in the ring with Mihawk come EoS.

Fuji got sent back by a 1 sword zoro under immense gravity.
No the attack wasnt the same vs fodder. The hole was never the issue. The issue was fuji kept the gravity on him.
Zoro shit on luffy out of the timeskip which will be proven soon enough and you can cry that magic sword enma made him jump 4 tiers in 5 days.

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

Fuji got sent back by a 1 sword zoro under immense gravity.
No the attack wasnt the same vs fodder. The hole was never the issue. The issue was fuji kept the gravity on him.
Zoro shit on luffy out of the timeskip which will be proven soon enough and you can cry that magic sword enma made him jump 4 tiers in 5 days.

Okay, Fujitora got sent back.... The scabbards sliced and diced Kaido for 20 minutes straight.... That doesn't mean they are on his level.... When Kaido got serious, the scabbards got wrecked.... Same thing would have happened to Zoro had Fujitora chosen to get serious, but he didn't because of what Luffy did for him earlier in the arc.

And you're free to believe Zoro shits on Luffy out of the timeskip based on absolutely nothing. From feats to portrayal, to training, to powerups, Luffy is way above Zoro. We will see soon enough....