Powers & Abilities Is Law and the Ope Ope no Mi fair game in the WSS competition?

The only definition of a swordsman we've ever gotten was 'someone who uses a sword'
That was Stephen Paul, who is but a translator. Secondly, the debate here is not what makes you a swordsman or whether specific abilities are considered cheating when talking about getting the WSS title.

and still oda considers both to be swordsmen.
It's not the fucking point mate.
 
Fujitora's DF must be pretty useless without a sword. He pulls out his sword any time he uses gravity. Pulled it out every time he pulled down a meteor, ripped holes into the ground, made things float up or used blasts of gravity. So if Fujitora loses his sword, he basically won't be able to use his DF anymore. It's logical. He used his sword every time when using his DF, so it means those abilities can only be used with the sword.

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What a low IQ argument. Law is not dependent on his sword. His DF makes the cutting.
What a stupid argument right? I mean, all Oda needed to do was NOT make Fujitora a sword user, yet he did, and on top of that he labelled him a swordsman. Almost as if he was trying to make a point...
 
What a stupid argument right? I mean, all Oda needed to do was NOT make Fujitora a sword user, yet he did, and on top of that he labelled him a swordsman. Almost as if he was trying to make a point...
People said Law cannot use his DF specific cutting abilities without a sword because he always uses his sword to do so, which is a dumb argument taking Fujitora as a prime example.

Reading incomprehension and strawmans is all I'm reading here.
 
Oda doesn't

Once again... those are fansrts
Ussop gallery is where fans sends their fanarts to Oda.

If you claim Law is swordmaj because of fanarts then accept the other drawings there about urouge and co as facts too
and oda comments on these fanarts. And in one of those he clearly considered law to be a swordsman. get over it
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....why did Oda feel the need to give Fujitora a sword?
maybe fuji was a swordsman before getting the df, but then it would be weird that he doesnt use any cutting/slashing/stabbing/whatever moves.
 
The fan art depicted Law, Zoro and Kinemon in the theme of Samurai. This is what Greg commented on. Within the context of the story told by the fan art, Law was a swordsman. Plus it's not Oda. It's similar to Oda's color spreads where Luffy is seen with swords, or Zoro is seen with Machine Guns. Or Sanji is seen with swords. Let's stay by the manga and not fan art.


No he won't. Because his DF is not dependent on a sword. Next time you tell me Fujitora needs his sword to pull down meteors, because he pulled out his sword each time he pulled down a meteor. Or pulled out his sword each time he ripped holes into the ground with gravity.
fanart has oda comment there :suresure: comrade you are embrassing urself bro again Greg said he read them and replied him and oda talked about usopp gallery in a sbs

 
How much nerf would Zoro receive if he used metal sticks instead of swords? Probably by 95%.
How much nerf would Law receive if he used a metal stick instead of a sword? Probably 5%.
Meaningless arbitrary numbers. That’s a great argument. We’ll just ignore all the panels of Law desperately using his sword to fend off attacks, and using his sword to deliver them.

And I thought a scythe was basically the same thing as a sword, so why is Zoro now so heavily nerfed?


Get the difference. Law uses his sword mainly for stalling and parrying.
A completely vital part of fighting.

And also for attacking, as much as you want to pretend otherwise.
Doing a small cut on a no name gifter was in fact the only sword related attack he did so far.
Scan, Injection Shot, Radio Knife, Sterbern...
Against Smoker? Just stalling. Against Doffy's clone? Just stalling. Blocking overheat. All things he could've done with a metal stick, literally.
Marvellous. Zoro is also now completely as powerful with a metal stick. Basically a sword, you know. Same motions to block, defend, deliver attacks.
While, with that same metal stick, he would have the full range of offensive moves from his room. Cutting everything within his room, removing hearts, ripping organs apart.
He wouldn’t be able to cut anything with a metal stick. The keyword there is ”cut”, it needs a blade.

And this still ignores the fact that a fight is about more than just landing attacks. Yeah, if everyone just stood still and let Law land Gamma Knife on them he could win without his sword. Thing is, fights don’t work like that.
When people get this difference, maybe we can continue.
When will you get that what is relevant is what Law actually does, not what your fanfiction version of him.
Doesn't change the fact that it's his DF that does the job. SFX slice, what is this supposed to mean? Yeah, he slices his opponents, but it's done with his Ope fruit, not through his sword.
“Slice“ shows that it is a cut. Cutting is done with a sharp weapon, not with metal sticks.

There is absolutely no reason to think that Law could slice an opponent in half with anything other than a bladed weapon. Not once has he ever used his fingers to do it. This is because his Room is meant to be his operating theatre, where he the surgeon. Have you ever heard of a surgeon performing an amputation or dissection with anything blunt? No, he needs to use a blade. And that then leads us back to, why use a sword and not a scalpel? Because he’s a swordsman, and that’s the weapon he fights best with.

Brooks sword(smanship) is still his main combat power. His DF is supplementary. It's different with Law. As for Law, his swordsmanship is supplementary, while his DF is his main and by far strongest asset.
They’re both much less effective without their swords, that’s all that matters.
 
....why did Oda feel the need to give Fujitora a sword?
Stop jumping to the next question. The question was, can Law cut without his sword, yes or no? If you say no, "because he always used a sword for that", it means that Fujitora's DF does not work without a sword for that exact same reason - because he always activates his DF with a sword.

So, can Law cut without his sword, yes or no, using an argument other than "because he uses a sword"? If no, what's the reason, given his cutting his hax from his DF?

Scan, Injection Shot, Radio Knife, Sterbern...
An ability from his DF, nothing to do with the sword. Unless you say Fujitora can use his gravity only with the sword, because he does so.
 
An ability from his DF, nothing to do with the sword. Unless you say Fujitora can use his gravity only with the sword, because he does so.
Aye, I’m sure Fujitora, with his fighting style called “Gravity Blade”, is just as strong in a fight with a metal spoon as he is with a sword. Despite him never once using anything other than his sword in a fight. Makes perfect sense.
 
Aye, I’m sure Fujitora, with his fighting style called “Gravity Blade”, is just as strong in a fight with a metal spoon as he is with a sword.
Dodging the question, great.

Let's ask again and again, until you answer the question: Does Fujitora's gravity fruit only work when Fujitora uses his sword, given he always uses it when using DF powers, even when pulling down meteors? Yes or no? If no, why do you assume that Law cannot cut without his sword when using his spatial hax within his room?
 
Aye, I’m sure Fujitora, with his fighting style called “Gravity Blade”, is just as strong in a fight with a metal spoon as he is with a sword. Despite him never once using anything other than his sword in a fight. Makes perfect sense.
We all know "Gravity Spoon" is a forbidden technique because it is just too powerful for the one piece world. Fujitora nerfed all of his universe-busting spoon techniques by using a sword instead
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Law with his df and his sword vs Law with his df and no sword. Who wins? @comrade
 
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Finalbeta

Zoro Worshipper
There's no sensible reason for characterizing Fuji as a man incapable of using gravity without the aid of a sword or even any kind of supportative object. His devil fruit allows him to affect gravity, his ability is not connected to the sword, but his own body, so his arms for example. The sword could act as a balancer, but nothing more overall.
 
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