One Piece Chapter 959 Spoilers Discussion

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I think after 20 years having fans trying to justify acomplishments by a, b or c factor is dumb....
Imo in OP it doesnt matter if its by haki, sword or DF, as simple as that....
It doesnt matter how you cut the mountain, or you can or you CANNOT, the fact is can you do it.
Fans overhype and downhype way further and deeper than Oda himself, that's why there are a lot of stupid discussions in forums....
truth is ... Oda and no good writer give a 2 fuck about power level ...
people are as strong as plot need them to be
people are as careless and weak as not all out as stupid as plot need them to be

the only real factor are all out duels for people in same class
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People shocks and making excuses by sanji dodging zoro attack ?

Sanji dodged future sight last arc better than luffy. Zoro is an ant compared to katakuri
dude by caring too much you are giving them a open side

Zoro doing this to Sanji is like when Nami beat Luffy , Zoro and Sanji in less than 10 sec

why people even add this things to power level argument
 
Zoro cutting Pica was great, because he was a strong opponent, one of the strongest from dofla family; full haki and mountain size....Zoro cutting a cliff is normal for me.
Comparing to law cutting the lab/mountain in PH was maybe all DF but still, he did it. One cannot diminuish law's mastery over his DF to overhype zoro's strenght, that's literally diminuing zoro's true value...
Zoro without sword wouldnt have cut pica or a cliff; law wouldnt have cut the lab/mountain in PH without his DF, and that's it.
Law cut the lab/mountain with no Haki, even if its all DF its impressive to me; Zoro cutting a cliff....meh, not that hype everyone's making...
 

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Zoro cutting Pica was great, because he was a strong opponent, one of the strongest from dofla family; full haki and mountain size....Zoro cutting a cliff is normal for me.
Comparing to law cutting the lab/mountain in PH was maybe all DF but still, he did it. One cannot diminuish law's mastery over his DF to overhype zoro's strenght, that's literally diminuing zoro's true value...
Zoro without sword wouldnt have cut pica or a cliff; law wouldnt have cut the lab/mountain in PH without his DF, and that's it.
Law cut the lab/mountain with no Haki, even if its all DF its impressive to me; Zoro cutting a cliff....meh, not that hype everyone's making...
Laws shit aint really cut though. It pops back together like kinemon
 
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dude by caring too much you are giving them a open side

Zoro doing this to Sanji is like when Nami beat Luffy , Zoro and Sanji in less than 10 sec

why people even add this things to power level argument
nah.. they are just taking the piss, zoro fanboys will treat a gag moments as a serious one if zoro manage to even land a hit on sanji in comedic situation so...it's fair.
 
zoro gets enma he is drained so he hasnt gotten control of it yet because it uses too much of his ryou
implying if he can get it under control/use it without getting drained, then he himslef has gotten
Zoro cutting Pica was great, because he was a strong opponent, one of the strongest from dofla family; full haki and mountain size....Zoro cutting a cliff is normal for me.
Comparing to law cutting the lab/mountain in PH was maybe all DF but still, he did it. One cannot diminuish law's mastery over his DF to overhype zoro's strenght, that's literally diminuing zoro's true value...
Zoro without sword wouldnt have cut pica or a cliff; law wouldnt have cut the lab/mountain in PH without his DF, and that's it.
Law cut the lab/mountain with no Haki, even if its all DF its impressive to me; Zoro cutting a cliff....meh, not that hype everyone's making...
fair point and thats just you . its not eye opening because zoro has done it before imo. in the same token, it might not be impressive for other people because of the nature of law's df just as it wasnt exactly impressive when bb titled the sea with wb df. You are both arguing something that really does not need to be argued.
 
zoro gets enma he is drained so he hasnt gotten control of it yet because it uses too much of his ryou
implying if he can get it under control/use it without getting drained, then he himslef has gotten

fair point and thats just you . its not eye opening because zoro has done it before imo. in the same token, it might not be impressive for other people because of the nature of law's df just as it wasnt exactly impressive when bb titled the sea with wb df. You are both arguing something that really does not need to be argued.
"You are both arguing something that...."
That's my point since the first post...
 

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Don't know why you're separating it in 2. I said that he never took a lot of time to master it. Never said either Zoro is too good at it or the sword is easy. Different stuff
Again, even tho you gotta control it, it doesn't take long lol
This definitely doesn't sound like " He never took a lot of time to master it".
 
ehh... why ere soome people still denying that enma is a power up for zoro?
when he himself said that he will get stronger once he mastered enma?
GOD this fanbase is too much sometimes, to even ignore your own favorite character words for just some stupid powerlvl discussion, you need chill on your fanboyism guys.
I think the argument comes down to an immediate jump in power versus mastering it and getting stronger that way rather than enma isnt a powerup.
 
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