Powers & Abilities Kid and Killer Do not have Ryou

[Erkan12]

Still care what Zoro fans says?

They were saying so many wrong things since the beginning of the Wano arc it's trolling at this point.

First they said Zoro will fight King, and they were overrating King for that reason, trying to show him as stronger than Marco because they thought Zoro was going to fight King at Wano, then when it was revealed that Zoro will help Luffy against Kaido alongside with the others on the roof they started to act like they knew Zoro was going to fight Kaido from the beginning of the Wano arc, not fight King.

Then when Sanji had a confrontation with King they said King is going to stomp Sanji and injure him in the next chapter, then we see that Sanji was completely fine after King's attack.

They already took so many loses in Wano arc, but if you ask them they always know everything.

 

[Gauntlet]

Said ryuo was absent in every chapter before that scene though. Oda can introduce a flashback scene to show Kidd/Killer unlocking it if he wants as well.

Who would teach either of those psychos anything? Dude's be killing on a whim.

 

[HA001]

Bold of you to be claiming victory over Zoro of all people.



Said ryuo was absent in every chapter before that scene though. Oda can introduce a flashback scene to show Kidd/Killer unlocking it if he wants as well.

How many proper fights did we see them in though ? kawa was using it instantly doji probably used it to rip through jacks weapons

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Still care what Zoro fans says?

They were saying so many wrong things since the beginning of the Wano arc it's trolling at this point.

First they said Zoro will fight King, and they were overrating King for that reason, trying to show him as stronger than Marco because they thought Zoro was going to fight King at Wano, then when it was revealed that Zoro will help Luffy against Kaido alongside with the others on the roof they started to act like they knew Zoro was going to fight Kaido from the beginning of the Wano arc, not King.

Then when Sanji had a confrontation with King they said King is going to stomp Sanji and injure him in the next chapter, then we see that Sanji was completely fine after King's attack.

They already took so many loses in Wano arc, but if you ask them they always know everything.

weve known zoro would fight kaido for years unlike you we didnt need oda slap it in our face

 

[Cinera]

The only two confirmed users thus far

Kaido said the Scabbards had "Oden's Ryuo".

had to be trained in such usage of it despite one of them going through constant extreme fights.

We haven't seen Zoro explicitly being trained in Ryuo usage?

Who would teach either of those psychos anything? Dude's be killing on a whim.

They might have awakened it themselves.

How many proper fights did we see them in though ? kawa was using it instantly doji probably used it to rip through jacks weapons

There wasn't any indication Asura used haki vs Jack.

• Kinemon vs Law & Doffy
• Kinemon vs Brook
• Kinemon & Brook vs the Dragon
• Inuarashi vs Jack
• Kyoshiro vs Zoro

 

[rerere]

Why everything ends up becoming a Zoro discussion?

 

[Sadistic Senpai]

Is this SMILE awakening a confirmed thing?

No, just a theory I have, in order to power up Killer.
But also, Killer in the beginning of Onigashima was laughing because of smiles
But then his laugh disappeared in the past chapters he was appearing in!

So I feel maybe the laughing part disappeared cause his smile is gonna awaken and turn into successful one

 

[HA001]

Kaido said the Scabbards had "Oden's Ryuo".




We haven't seen Zoro explicitly being trained in Ryuo usage?



They might have awakened it themselves.



There wasn't any indication Asura used haki vs Jack.

• Kinemon vs Law & Doffy
• Kinemon vs Brook
• Kinemon & Brook vs the Dragon
• Inuarashi vs Jack
• Kyoshiro vs Zoro

But most of them arent even proper fights
we dont know if kinemon fought law
all doffy did was hit him once and kinemon got up never attacked him
not a serious fight it was kinemons torso
zoro kyoshiro was a clash
and you know ryou doesnt always have haki marks right ?

 

[Gauntlet]

Kaido said the Scabbards had "Oden's Ryuo".

Because Oden trained the Scabbards in Ryou. Kaido says that because only Oden has ever harmed him in such a way as far as we know, which is why he's so surprised that the Scabbards were able to harm him.

We haven't seen Zoro explicitly being trained in Ryuo usage?

Except for the fact Zoro's sensei Koushirou taught him Ryou, and we can come to this conclusion since both Koushirou and Hyogoro explicitly teaches Zoro and Luffy respectively the ability to "cut anything and nothing". Who'd teach Kidd and Killer that?

They might have awakened it themselves.

It was never shown to just "awaken" without prior knowledge of such a ability. That'd just be an asspull.

 

[rerere]

No, just a theory I have, in order to power up Killer.
But also, Killer in the beginning of Onigashima was laughing because of smiles
But then his laugh disappeared in the past chapters he was appearing in!

So I feel maybe the laughing part disappeared cause his smile is gonna awaken and turn into successful one

No he's still laughing

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But that's still a possibility
I personally see Killer really fitting Who's Who DF, or something like the one of Bellamy which would enhance his (already exceptional) agility
But he's already GOAT without DF so

 

[Sanji D Cook]

Ryou is Haki. Everyone has it. What is so hard to grasp this concept. In Wano, it's called Ryou. The rest of the world, it's called Haki. Its the same thing.

 

[Sadistic Senpai]

No he's still laughing

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But that's still a possibility
I personally see Killer really fitting Who's Who DF, or something like the one of Bellamy which would enhance his (already exceptional) agility
But he's already GOAT without DF so

My bad then
But still, I believe he'll awaken it and stop laughing eventually

 

[Fn Lucci]

Ryuo is just the name for Haki in Wano

We aren't really told whether weapon users need it to manifest the way Luffy would. So it's conceivable that Kid, Zoro, and Killer can threaten Kaido. Law probably can't as he's so dependent on his powers

 

[Gauntlet]

Ryou is Haki. Everyone has it. What is so hard to grasp this concept. In Wano, it's called Ryou. The rest of the world, it's called Haki. Its the same thing.

Yes. Ryou is just Haki. Haki flow to be exact. While the world outside of Wano simply coat their weapons in Armament, Wano country use Haki in a flow or barrier for swordsmanship to cut into things that wouldn't be possible to cut otherwise while simultaneously being able to not cut what they determine to not be necessary to cut, the latter being impossible with basic and Hardening Armament.

 

[Blother Fertitta]

Kid has Ryuo, Idk about Killer

 

[Rivaille]

Oda will probably explain that their Ryou was not strong enough during the fight with Kaido or that they trained and mastered it during the two weeks break.

Remember that Kidd said « we will do things our way ».

There are several ways for Oda to explain how they could do serious damage to Kaido and Big Mom without it being an inconsistency.

 

[BidaPowersTV]

Kaido was having straight ptsd flashbacks from the mere notion of getting hurt. This isn’t a thing that just regularly happens to him especially when Ryou is involved. There’s like three consecutive chapters of Kaido questioning how possible this all this.

Given this reaction, are you really going to say that Just two months ago when Kidand killer fought Kaido, ONE OF THEM ALSO DAMAGED HIM???

Why would Kaido be so surprised regarding the scabbards if this same thing happened to him already a few months ago?

and on top of that you cannot even say Kid and killer learned Ryou since Kid was a prisoner doing jack shit but lift blocks and Killer was a grunt for Orochi killing fodder

So again, neither of these guys can do any damage to the Yonko. That’s just a fact

we only saw kid as a being who doesnt really care to other people and he only does good stuff to his crew. But who really knows Kid? He probably a romantic man like luffy who helps other people. But one thing for sure during that time he was in prison he been training non stop. Remember he couldve escape by himself but he instead went back to being imprisonned again because they will killer.
he probably learned ryou or his devil fruit powers has some crazy strong attack that could make kaidou scream. He probably wont kill kaidou with this attack but i think he will do this and the rest he will entrust it to luffy.

btw how did you guys get your bounty that much ive been posting a lot in this forum never seen my bounty going up.

 

[T.D.A]

Kaido was having straight ptsd flashbacks from the mere notion of getting hurt. This isn’t a thing that just regularly happens to him especially when Ryou is involved. There’s like three consecutive chapters of Kaido questioning how possible this all this.

Given this reaction, are you really going to say that Just two months ago when Kidand killer fought Kaido, ONE OF THEM ALSO DAMAGED HIM???

Why would Kaido be so surprised regarding the scabbards if this same thing happened to him already a few months ago?

and on top of that you cannot even say Kid and killer learned Ryou since Kid was a prisoner doing jack shit but lift blocks and Killer was a grunt for Orochi killing fodder

So again, neither of these guys can do any damage to the Yonko. That’s just a fact

Are you talking about barrier haki or internal destruction? Because Kidd and Killer can use standard ryou (haki)

 

[Gauntlet]

Are you talking about barrier haki or internal destruction? Because Kidd and Killer can use standard ryou (haki)

Barrier Haki's Ryou, or Haki flow, as it's just Haki being output in a different way. Even Luffy states that the Barrier haki that Sentimaru and Rayleigh used have the same color of Armament that he himself applies. Coating a weapon in Armament's basic Armament, but to fully use Ryou you'd have to be able to get the Haki to flow outside the weapon, like a barrier of sorts.

 

[Luffy bin Dragon]

"Young Shanks" as if Mihawk wasn't young himself back then lmao

Dont you know Mihawk and Zoro never grow only Shanks and Luffy

 

[Garps tekkai]

People are forgetting that the Scabbards literally jumped several levels out of thin air. Kinemon went from being absolute trash to PH Law to leading the fight against Kaido and scarring him.

If the scabbards could develop "Oden's ryuo" out of thin air, why not Kidd & Killer. That they're even in the fight suggests they're going to perform adequately. The entire narrative around the Worst Generation vs the Yonkou and Oden's prophecy all but guarantee it.

Hi Cinera.. Just wanted to say that Kinemon and Kanjuro blocked the birdcage with haki covered -CoA hardened- weapons.
So they are not only able to let their haki flow, but they are also able to let it flow off their bodies onto their weapons and then harden it.
And Kawamatsu was basically introduced with his Kappa Ryou style, where he does not harden the haki on his blade, but instead releases it in blasts within his sword strikes, similiar to how brawlers release those barrier Haki blasts.

So yeah, they already were portrayed as advanced CoA users before the Kaido fight.