Cinera

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  Cinera

• Aug 3, 2023

After catching up with Egghead, I got the sense that Zoro's portrayal was closer to Luffy than to Sanji power level wise.

Lucci wasn't distinguished from Kaku either in ability (both are Awakened Zoans) or portrayal (Stussy called both of them strong without singling out Lucci).

Of course Luffy didn't use Haoshoku coating, but neither did Zoro either.

Cc: @LANJI CUCKSMOKE.

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  Cinera

• Aug 3, 2023

Zoro + Sanji vs Borsalino seems pretty unlikely to me.

Luffy is his most likely opponent.

But there's an argument for Zoro stalemating Borsalino:
* Payback for Sabaody; things are different this time
* Parallel of "Dark King" Rayleigh stalemating Borsalino
* Borsalino often fights RHM (Marco, Rayleigh)
* Borsalino is Sakazuki's top subordinate
* Etc.

https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/.12083

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  Cinera

• Aug 3, 2023

Do we think the Seraphim are all broadly equal in strength?

Or is there a strength hierarchy between them?

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  Cinera

• Aug 3, 2023

Damn, Oda did Kidd so dirty.

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  Cinera

• Aug 3, 2023

Eh, Zoro has been paired up with Luffy throughout Egg Head much more consistently than Sanji:

* Both fought Awakened Zoan CP 0 users
* Both stayed behind during the Vegapunk search
* Both fought the Seraphim that came to kill CP 0 and Vegapunk
* Both teamed up with CP 0 against Seraphim
* Etc.

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  Cinera

• Aug 3, 2023

What's the consensus here on Rob Lucci's power level?

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  Cinera

• Aug 1, 2023

For a fruitless character like Benn Beckman there is no basis for placing him above Zoro until/unless he shows Haoshoku coating.

Mere Busoshoku/Kenbushoku won't cut it.

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  Cinera

• Aug 1, 2023

Wegapunk recognises Zoro's greatness. 😌

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  Cinera

• Aug 1, 2023

BTW, who was Sanji fighting while Zoro and Luffy were fighting Lucci and Kaku?

(I haven't actually read Egghead Island yet.)

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  Cinera

• Jul 31, 2023

It's annoying, but Zoro still hasn't had a serious solo fight with a Top Tier.

I feel like Post King of Hell, he would obviously perform better than Yamato.

It's wild to me that people place Yamato, 1010 Luffy, Law and even Kidd above Post Wano Zoro.

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  Cinera

• Jul 31, 2023

The Kidd is YC 3 takes are dumb, but so are the "Kidd is stronger than Zoro" takes.

Even if you scale Kidd to Law (feels unwarranted given how both performed against Emperors solo), Zoro still has the superior portrayal.

He's one of a handful of the very strongest.

And Kaido already told us that haki reigns supreme.

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  Midnight Delight

• Jul 30, 2023

Join the yoshida agenda

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  Cinera

• Jul 30, 2023

Wano was objectively a disappointment for Zoro's character.

So many Zoro plots went nowhere:
* Zoro rounding up the Samurai
* Kaido detecting Oden's presence in Enma
* Kaido declaring that we'll never see a Monster Samurai of the likes of Kozuki Oden again
* Zoro's comparisons with Ryuma
* "The Second Coming of Ryuma"
* Zoro visiting Ryuma's grave
* The Grim Reaper

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  Cinera

• Jul 30, 2023

Either:

A. Shiryu gets a massive power up before facing Zoro
B. Zoro stomps Shiryu
C. Or Zoro is a low diff for Top Tiers

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  Cinera

• Jul 30, 2023

Is Garp confirmed to have Haoshoku coating?

His galaxy impact wasn't meaningfully distinguished from Coby's Honesty Impact and Coby hasn't been suggested to be a Haoshoku user.

The main reason to believe Garp has Haoshoku is because of Dragon and Luffy, and a Top Tier Haoshoku user should have Haoshoku coating.

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  Cinera

• Jul 30, 2023

I think Zoro is plausibly stronger than the Old Legends at this point.

The main reason to reject it is if you think Shiryu is supposed to be a ceiling for current Zoro.

But I don't really buy it.

While King of Hell lasts current Zoro's firepower should be above Old Garp IMO.

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  Cinera

• Jul 29, 2023

What's the consensus on Sanji's power level?

Do people think he beats Katakuri?

Cc: @comrade, @Veku, @TheAncientCenturion, @ZenZu?

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  Cinera

• Jul 25, 2023

To the people that think Luffy will fight Borsalino; what's Saturn going to do?

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  HA001

• Jul 25, 2023

Nice to see you active in here. Hope all good.

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  Midnight Delight

• Jul 22, 2023

Doll Hibari or Kejaku?