Solid chapter, but it gets clearer and clearer that Oda is going to end this arc with his usual formula (flying Onigashima as the usual Birdcage/Advent of Thunder/Nuke like threat, Luffy loses and is out of the picture for a while, rest of the SHs win their matchups, Luffy comes back a final...
40% think that they might be on Tobi Roppo level.
Not exactly a high number, given the fact that OP stans always tend to vastly overestimate the strength of certain characters.
60% think they're below the Tobi Roppo, which is the only logical conclusion we can draw as of right now.
I actually don't value Enies Lobby all that much because of all those reasons.
Arc endings have never been oda's strength imho.
My top 5 arcs still remain:
1) Water 7
That isn't even a concern for me.
Wano is the biggest arc up to date, such a massive buildup was ok.
It was the way this buildup was executed. The Tobi Roppo were literally introduced in the last minute, just to present us some random 1-vs-1 opponents for the lesser SHs in the last minute.
Are there really some people left, who think that PageOne, Ulti, Who's Who and Sasaki aren't out yet?
Good Lord, how obvious does Oda have to be?
Those fights are over. Oda wants to get to the finale of the arc, this much is painfully obvious.
Now you can hate that, which I kind of...
Outside of WB and Ace, I consider none of them to be "confirmed" dead.
This is Oda after all.
We've seen characters like Pell come back from a basically "secure death" and even Pound, who many already painted in as "dead", miraculously returned and was totally fine. Heck, even Moscato, who was...
You're still overestimating them.
Yes, they have a high growth rate, but people tend to blow that out of proportions.
Remember when we saw them being able to use Rokushiki pre-skip?
They still were complete fodder to hakiless Luffy and Zoro. Those two didn't even try and one-shotted them with...
No, not at all.
I wouldn't even call them fodder now.
They just aren't in the league of really strong fighters like Shichibukai, Vice Admirals or Yonkou Commanders (what some fans want them to be).
I think they could be around Tobi Roppo level at the end of the series and then we see Coby...
Pre-timeskip Smoker at the very best - and that's being very, very generous.
You guys are MASSIVELY overrating both of them.
Even Smoker, who was way stronger than both of them and had a significant growth himself (learning CoA and CoA, being promoted to VA etc.) is clearly not in the league...
Yep, I only listed the most obvious ones. The sheer amount of still open matchups alone should be enough to convince even the doubters, that Oda has already begun the process of finishing the matchups (as we've seen with Ulti vs Nami/Usopp, Jinbei vs WsW and Franky vs Sasaki).