Powers & Abilities How strong do you guys truly believe Helmeppo and koby are?
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Tough matter imo
There are certain limitating factors:
- Rokushiki + stats: Hybrid WhosWho and Vergo
- Stats in general: Dukes, top scabbards in general, Jinbei, M3, Doffy etc.
- Speed + CoO spec: Sanji pretty much, who also happens to be one the best/most skilled martial artists
Those are tough nuts to crack.
Best case scenario:
He's specialized in speed base techs (Soru/Geppou), which go well in hand with his seemingly great CoO spec, while he uses something like internal destruction haki as his main attack quirk (Episode of Luffy).
Basically being less durable and physically weaker than guys like Vergo and Drake, but much more agile, maybe faster, while he compensates lacking strength/AP with internal destro haki, making him a low high tier overall..?
Basically: A weaker, but faster/more mobile base Sabo at best, but I dunno..
There are certain limitating factors:
- Rokushiki + stats: Hybrid WhosWho and Vergo
- Stats in general: Dukes, top scabbards in general, Jinbei, M3, Doffy etc.
- Speed + CoO spec: Sanji pretty much, who also happens to be one the best/most skilled martial artists
Those are tough nuts to crack.
Best case scenario:
He's specialized in speed base techs (Soru/Geppou), which go well in hand with his seemingly great CoO spec, while he uses something like internal destruction haki as his main attack quirk (Episode of Luffy).
Basically being less durable and physically weaker than guys like Vergo and Drake, but much more agile, maybe faster, while he compensates lacking strength/AP with internal destro haki, making him a low high tier overall..?
Basically: A weaker, but faster/more mobile base Sabo at best, but I dunno..
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ermmm, A BIG FUCKING YES
As far as I know one legit source(maybe SBS but I dont remember clearly) stated that Coby has mastery over advance level of observation haki. Mind you, advance doesnt necessarily mean future sight, coby had ability to sense people emotions and hear their voices, so maybe he'll have that kinda advancement and not like luffy
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As far as I know one legit source(maybe SBS but I dont remember clearly) stated that Coby has mastery over advance level of observation haki. Mind you, advance doesnt necessarily mean future sight, coby had ability to sense people emotions and hear their voices, so maybe he'll have that kinda advancement and not like luffy
he destroyed a mountain of ruskaina in rayliegh flashback in dressrosa before KKG.
They never needed to cut mountains. and last time we saw top tier throw a casual slash they cut a fucking frozen tsunami in half. and btw when I quoted about strength of helmeppo I said "next time we meet him" not "how strong is he now".
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Show us top tiers cut mountains and then worry abt Helmeppo. I'll wait. 
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@GreenEggsAHam what do you think?
Koby could beat hancock if he is given an adequate power up
In One Piece, literally every single character has some sort of special unique power. Zoro has santoryu, ranked swords, and asura; Sanji has diable jambe and the raid suit; Luffy has the gomu gomu no mi; ect. Koby has no such power. He merely has haki and rokushiki, which are common techniques(even big mom pirate fodder could use geppo).
Koby doesn't have a devil fruit or a special weapon like literally 95% of strong characters in the series.
So yes, Koby is "just a captain", but this is why. From simple logic, feats, and portrayal, we know Koby has good haki. He was trained by Garp for 2 years. His haki isn't the problem, its that he doesn't have a devil fruit or a special weapon.
Say he was given a mythical zoan over the course of reverie, or perhaps some sort of SSG science upgrade. Why wouldn't he be able to pose a threat to hancock? Are we really going to argue that no matter what power up he gets, he will always be fodder?
In One Piece, literally every single character has some sort of special unique power. Zoro has santoryu, ranked swords, and asura; Sanji has diable jambe and the raid suit; Luffy has the gomu gomu no mi; ect. Koby has no such power. He merely has haki and rokushiki, which are common techniques(even big mom pirate fodder could use geppo).
Koby doesn't have a devil fruit or a special weapon like literally 95% of strong characters in the series.
So yes, Koby is "just a captain", but this is why. From simple logic, feats, and portrayal, we know Koby has good haki. He was trained by Garp for 2 years. His haki isn't the problem, its that he doesn't have a devil fruit or a special weapon.
Say he was given a mythical zoan over the course of reverie, or perhaps some sort of SSG science upgrade. Why wouldn't he be able to pose a threat to hancock? Are we really going to argue that no matter what power up he gets, he will always be fodder?
Lol at people thinking that Coby is stronger than xdrake(f6 tier-his captain) or smoker.
Let alone bullshit as wcl luffy tier lmao.
He is around tashigis level more or less, even if he returns in the main story, he will never pose a threat to luffy or his crew.
Coby is irelevant, he will become admiral in EoS, for a new marinefort after all the current admirals are gonne, he wont even be as strong as a current og admiral anyway, maybe than he will be in Luffys wci tier, thats all.
Let alone bullshit as wcl luffy tier lmao.
He is around tashigis level more or less, even if he returns in the main story, he will never pose a threat to luffy or his crew.
Coby is irelevant, he will become admiral in EoS, for a new marinefort after all the current admirals are gonne, he wont even be as strong as a current og admiral anyway, maybe than he will be in Luffys wci tier, thats all.
Totally agree
Only coby used rokoushiki and it was only soru. And this was after zoro and Co had to deal with rokoushiki users thus gaining an idea of the fight style
bro haki concept back then was still too abtract... and Marineford was litterally an arc before timeskip then Oda begin to introduce haki one by one, precisely when Luffy begin his training with Rayleigh lmao
and you know isnt it odd seeing the greatest of all time Whitebeard never using any CoA or CoC let alone the advance version of it in Marineford
I assumed white beard had to use it to land blows on akainu soooooo......
I think he is vastly superior to her seeing that he was using rokoushiki pretimeksip while she just learned to use one of its technique post timeskip. She was also ranks ahead of him when he was only time cabin boy on Alvin's ship. Yet they both now have the same rank?
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Only coby used rokoushiki and it was only soru. And this was after zoro and Co had to deal with rokoushiki users thus gaining an idea of the fight style
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bro haki concept back then was still too abtract... and Marineford was litterally an arc before timeskip then Oda begin to introduce haki one by one, precisely when Luffy begin his training with Rayleigh lmao
and you know isnt it odd seeing the greatest of all time Whitebeard never using any CoA or CoC let alone the advance version of it in Marineford
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I think he is vastly superior to her seeing that he was using rokoushiki pretimeksip while she just learned to use one of its technique post timeskip. She was also ranks ahead of him when he was only time cabin boy on Alvin's ship. Yet they both now have the same rank?
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