Controversial Failed ZKK wasn't the Biggest L for the Z boys

#61
yeah it can be repetitive and i respect anyone's decision to stop following a character that has no real narrative at this point.

On the reverse, it's easy being his fan. You're guaranteed fights against usually the second strongest combatant that zoro will win against, he may not get a satisfying character, no amassing the samurai, no ryuuma grave scene, no real info on his time with Mihawk. You lose narrative for feats and honestly with such a long manga it's good to see pretty consistent strength and growth representation, contrasts the lore heavy characters

Oda can't draw the swordfights well but damn does he make zoros one shot o'clock moves look fucking tasty
I'd appreciate Oda making up his mind tho and not selling the character as something that he (Zoro) no longer is. Why introduce the Wano heritage, the connection to the locals and his interest in Ryuma to begin with? Notice that Ryuma was first shown in Thriller Bark aka at least a decade before Wano. Why tease something like that and then never deliver?!? It's extremely frustrating when the author builds suspense and expectations only to laugh the readers in the face.
 
#63
I am sincerely upset that we didn't get a properly samurai fight in Wano.
A renegade yet honorable samurai fight a-la vagabond would have been fantastic. Zoro defeating a Samurai as a Samurai.
Perfect entry before defeating Mihawk as a swordsman, which i imagine more like a swashbuckling/cyrano kind of fight.
Fucking Oda smoking crack and giving as a fight a pterodactyl with a saw sword wtf.
Remember the Orochi is Zoro's father theories:kobeha::saden:
This is not even only a Zoro problem, it's a Wano problem. The actual samurai characters were unintentional comedic relief characters at best.
 
#68
This thread is the exact reason why I stopped discussing OP stuff.

The same old boring and repetitive Zoro vs Sanji dickmeasuring contest, slander on both sides all because of "X is stronger because Y is trash" or "X doesn't have the same feats as Y" and shit.

Like bruv. Both Zoro and Sanji are inferior to Luffy anyway so why bother debating?:kayneshrug:
Zoro vs Luffy is the fan war of the year now
 
#72
Remember the Orochi is Zoro's father theories:kobeha::saden:
This is not even only a Zoro problem, it's a Wano problem. The actual samurai characters were unintentional comedic relief characters at best.
Problem is all the strong Samurai were good guys. Kurozumi family should have had their own set of decent retainers. Denijiro from the very beginning should not have been made an Oden retainer.
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This Odas fault , not zoro :)))
Tbh these are failures of a fandom not Zoro Ls. For the most part he is okay but his fans keep taking Ls coz of delusional expectations.
 
#74
This thread is the exact reason why I stopped discussing OP stuff.

The same old boring and repetitive Zoro vs Sanji dickmeasuring contest, slander on both sides all because of "X is stronger because Y is trash" or "X doesn't have the same feats as Y" and shit.

Like bruv. Both Zoro and Sanji are inferior to Luffy anyway so why bother debating?:kayneshrug:
Go to Reddit dude
Nobody wanna hear your pretentious statement in a site which is fuel by that
You stick to bot spamming likes n posting hentais
 
#75
Before king and queen bounty was Revealed.
I was one of those , Sani around 800-900 with zoro around 1-1.1 B.
King and queen bounty raised the bar.
This is straight up retarded and delusional. Why the fuck oda would give Sanji 800-900 m after WCI and wano. Narratively it doesn't even make sense. They overthrew an entire government plus he's a lost prince of a kingdom. King and Queen didn't raise shit. You're just clowning. Bounty isn't only about power levels bitch.
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Haha
Why would I cry over a retarded whose persona is hating on others
Come
Let me feed you some biscuits
Nah @Gaimon The Pirate you destroyed this zkk bitch 😭😭 he's not recovering from this 😭😭
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No sanji fan can ever talk on zoros wano.
Zoro got feats on wano eos sanji can't dream of
Facts. Sanji fans should be crying it's over for that simp
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Another proof that the real price for Zoro should be at least 2.5 billion. And trash like Lol and mid got rewarded because of the nuclear bomb, and the price for goofy is 80% of the god Nick.
Cry harder bitch. Bounty isn't about power levels.
Law and Luffy formed an alliance and they overthrew three kingdoms. Law formed an alliance with kidd and they defeated big mom. Luffy is the son of dragon, grandson of garp, has D in his name, defeated kaido etc if you honestly can't see why they got high bounties just cry harder. It's just that the world government doesn't think Zoro is that big of a fish like Nika. To them he's just a mere yc that's it
 
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#76
The fact that you put Fujitora here but don't put Kizaru is the emblem of Zoro fanatism.
You guys are not interested in honest conversations, you are just fanboys sucking off Zoro,the secondary character with 0 arcs.
Sad.
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Skirmish with Fujitora ended with Zoro overpowering Fuji's gravity and Fuji acknowledging Zoro's AP.

Skirmish with Kizaru ended with Vegapunk dying and Sanji survived thanks to Vegapunk's boots.

So to be fair @gz89 didn't put Kizaru there to protect Sanji's already shitty resume.
 
#77
Skirmish with Fujitora ended with Zoro overpowering Fuji's gravity and Fuji acknowledging Zoro's AP.

Skirmish with Kizaru ended with Vegapunk dying and Sanji survived thanks to Vegapunk's boots.

So to be fair @gz89 didn't put Kizaru there to protect Sanji's already shitty resume.
What a load of shit.
Kizaru was shocked, like everyone else, of Sanji showcase around him.

If you count Vegapunk boots then you must count the special magic swords mystical supreme blades that Zoro uses?
 
#78
This is straight up retarded and delusional. Why the fuck oda would give Sanji 800-900 m after WCI and wano. Narratively it doesn't even make sense. They overthrew an entire government plus he's a lost prince of a kingdom. King and Queen didn't raise shit. You're just clowning. Bounty isn't only about power levels bitch.
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Nah @Gaimon The Pirate you destroyed this zkk bitch 😭😭 he's not recovering from this 😭😭
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Facts. Sanji fans should be crying it's over for that simp
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Cry harder bitch. Bounty isn't about power levels.
Law and Luffy formed an alliance and they overthrew three kingdoms. Law formed an alliance with kidd and they defeated big mom. Luffy is the son of dragon, grandson of garp, has D in his name, defeated kaido etc if you honestly can't see why they got high bounties just cry harder. It's just that the world government doesn't think Zoro is that big of a fish like Nika. To them he's just a mere yc that's it
That's why I'm saying Goofy is trash, he was given someone else's god power, and he couldn't defeat a single enemy in the arch. He's trash with the fruit of god.
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What a load of shit.
Kizaru was shocked, like everyone else, of Sanji showcase around him.

If you count Vegapunk boots then you must count the special magic swords mystical supreme blades that Zoro uses?
Who killed Zoro and who no one wanted to take even for free? Cool magic that sucks out Zoro 's hacks and kills him
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What a load of shit.
Kizaru was shocked, like everyone else, of Sanji showcase around him.

If you count Vegapunk boots then you must count the special magic swords mystical supreme blades that Zoro uses?
Who killed Zoro and who no one wanted to take even for free? Cool magic that sucks out Zoro 's hacks and kills him
 
#79
That's why I'm saying Goofy is trash, he was given someone else's god power, and he couldn't defeat a single enemy in the arch. He's trash with the fruit of god.
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Who killed Zoro and who no one wanted to take even for free? Cool magic that sucks out Zoro 's hacks and kills him
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Who killed Zoro and who no one wanted to take even for free? Cool magic that sucks out Zoro 's hacks and kills him
Yeah except his magic enma is not the only special super sword he has.
Mr zoro needs 3 super tools!
Not 1 like Posthawk or the rat, not 2 like WISTA. 3 CRUTCHES.
And you complain about vegapunks boots!
Swordsmen? More like crutchmen!
 
#80
Yeah except his magic enma is not the only special super sword he has.
Mr zoro needs 3 super tools!
Not 1 like Posthawk or the rat, not 2 like WISTA. 3 CRUTCHES.
And you complain about vegapunks boots!
Swordsmen? More like crutchmen!
These are three pieces of iron, two of which killed their owners (enma and sandai, giving nothing in return, and this swordsman can improve them by tempering his khaki). But the inventions of vegapank have repeatedly shown that they give excellent abilities, such as the costume of jerma
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And at all. Zoro is the one who achieves everything on his own, he even gave his best and stable blade to shusui and became weaker by taking enma instead. But thanks to his excellent khaki, he was able to subdue the blade. So the whole power of zoro is himself. He doesn't need a daddy's suit or daddy's genes that give super abilities and special shoes, he doesn't need a fruit and the power of god and a fruit like lo for 5 billion. Zoro is a talent and training
 
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