Powers & Abilities Debunking Literally Every Argument Against Ryokugyu’s Black Blade UPDATE: Remembering The Fallen

[CbShadow]

Meme true once again:

P.S.

Bokken don't have hamons. Hamons come from steel forging/tempering.

Hiding behind a meme because you can't counter my post that backed up by manga facts.

This is the standard.

There is no scene stating it's a black blade. In reality, you can't even confirm his weapon is a sword.

Oh look, a bokken with a hamon.

 

[Dragon777]

Hiding behind a meme because you can't counter my post that backed up by manga facts.

This is the standard.

There is no scene stating it's a black blade. In reality, you can't even confirm his weapon is a sword.

Oh look, a bokken with a hamon.

* Backed by cope you mean lol.

Anyway, try avoinding the point again I see. And again, the meme Is true:

And no, that Is not a Bokken.
That Is a replica of a real katana made of wood. Or even plastic maybe lol.
These are Bokkens: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bokken

So again, Hamon Is from steel tempering/forging, so It would be even logically beyond dumb to have It in a wooden sword. We could have get this Just by using our brain.

But at this rate I expect some plastic replica made for childer as proof of hamons .

 

[Kiri]

"For one to believe he was actively coating a non-black blade in Haki, one would have to believe that Oda chose to have Ryokugyu coat a sword hanging from his hip in Haki for no other reason than to simply confuse readers. Which obviously makes not one ounce of sense."

No, one does NOT have to believe that shit, you can coat a blade in-case you need to use it, just because you didn't use it doesn't mean you couldn't have. He was literally heading into a confrontation.

That's like saying if someone has a gun strapped to their waist, and uses their df instead, it must not be loaded with any bullets, because he didn't use it, and would only have loaded it with bullets if he was 100% going to use the gun. What kind of dumbass logic is this.

If there was a situation in which he had to have used his sword, and he wasn't applying haki to it, he would have to waste time applying haki it, instead of having it already coated.

Damn man I guess vergo should have been continually turning on and off his full body armament, to when he ACSHULLY needed it, instead of having an active enhanced defence throughout the fight.

Note: I don't even mind GB having a black blade, but the logic presented 99% of the time that I've seen is complete and utter nonsense.

 

[Dragon777]

"For one to believe he was actively coating a non-black blade in Haki, one would have to believe that Oda chose to have Ryokugyu coat a sword hanging from his hip in Haki for no other reason than to simply confuse readers. Which obviously makes not one ounce of sense."

No, one does NOT have to believe that shit, you can coat a blade in-case you need to use it, just because you didn't use it doesn't mean you couldn't have. He was literally heading into a confrontation.

That's like saying if someone has a gun strapped to their waist, and uses their df instead, it must not be loaded with any bullets, because he didn't use it, and would only have loaded it with bullets if he was 100% going to use the gun. What kind of dumbass logic is this.

If there was a situation in which he had to have used his sword, and he wasn't applying haki to it, he would have to waste time applying haki it, instead of having it already coated.

Damn man I guess vergo should have been continually turning on and off his full body armament, to when he ACSHULLY needed it, instead of having an active enhanced defence throughout the fight.

Note: I don't even mind GB having a black blade, but the logic presented 99% of the time that I've seen is complete and utter nonsense.

The nonsense Is trying to use and argument that has no bearing in the manga. So:

1) can you present another case in the whole manga (sword/blade being black at the swordsman hips) of what you are talking about?

2) are you aware of this panel too anyway?

* Ryo was casually walking to the Flower capital with no one present and no fight that had just happened.

 

[Elder Lee Hung]

That's like saying if someone has a gun strapped to their waist, and uses their df instead, it must not be loaded with any bullets, because he didn't use it, and would only have loaded it with bullets if he was 100% going to use the gun. What kind of dumbass logic is this.

Lord Jesus, never let my brain become as defective as this, in Christ’s name I pray, amen

 

[CbShadow]

* Backed by laughable cope you mean lol.

Anyway, try avoinding the point again I see. And again, the meme Is true:

And no, that Is not a Bokken.
That Is a replica of a real katana made of wood.
These are Bokkens: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bokken

So again, Hamon Is from steel tempering/forging, so It would be even logically beyond dumb to have It in a wood sword. We could have get this Just by using our brain.

But at this rate I expect some plastic replica made for childer as proof of hamons .

Meme aren't manga facts. I provided manga facts showing the standard Oda use to reveal black blades. You provided a meme. We are not the same.

Let me try it.

Question: What is the bottom weapon in both pictures?

Answer: A black blade. It's black, looks like a sword, shaped like a sword and has a hamon.





We haven't even seen all of Aramaki weapon. You probably don't even realize we have a clearly view of the weapon in your meme than Aramaki's weapon.

 

[Dragon777]

Meme aren't manga facts. I provided manga facts showing the standard Oda use to reveal black blades. You provided a meme. We are not the same.

I provided a meme because you answer was made into a meme by the internet given the sheer dumbenss of It.

Not my fault if It's laughable and people laugh at It.

Let me try it.

Question: What is the bottom weapon in both pictures?

Answer: A black blade. It's black, looks like a sword, shaped like a sword and has a hamon.

Quesiton: are you able to undestand what I posted?
Let's try again:

Page about Bokkens: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bokken

Page about hamons: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamon_(swordsmithing)

No Bokken has hamons, because hamons are product of steel tempering/forging. Easy enough now?

You can check on the official page I linked.

What you posted Is a replica, made in wood or plastic, of a real Katana. Basically a model/Toy.
But again, I expect some argument about plastic Katana toys having an hamon now .

 

[ArturCantSpeakJapanese]

The nonsense Is trying to use and argument that has no bearing in the manga. So:

1) can you present another case in the whole manga (sword/blade being black at the swordsman hips) of what you are talking about?

2) are you aware of this panel too anyway?

* Ryo was casually walking to the Flower capital with no one present and no fight that had just happened.

its just so obviously a black blade. i dont know why this is even a debate. its right there in black and white.

 

[Dragon777]

its just so obviously a black blade. i dont know why this is even a debate. its right there in black and white.

The things the agenda makes people do is unblievable.

I could undestand the doubts when the original chapter was published, but now, after the second scan, the confirmation in volume (the argument was that It was an drawing error made by Oda), the VC and even the colored manga, this Is a surreal discussion.

I undestand they have this BB agenda and now they are forced to recognize that Admirals are much more than they thought, but it's how the manga goes.
I dislike Shanks, but not recognizing he Is very strong would be beyond dumb for me.

Some swordfans are literally making a fool out of themselves for pure cope. And everyone can see and did see It.

 

[Mr. Anderson]

Greenbull's sword is a black blade and anyone saying otherwise should be ignored for being disengenuous. The argument that "it's not a black blade because it wasn't directly stated" falls flat on it's face because the sole reason it wasn't stated to be one is due to the fact that Aramaki didn't use it. Oda used his introduction to show off his devil fruit abilities, not his martial prowess.

The colored version pretty much sets this in stone. Unless Oda decides to retcon it later on in a cover page, as of now it's a black blade.

 

[Kiri]

The nonsense Is trying to use and argument that has no bearing in the manga. So:

1) can you present another case in the whole manga (sword/blade being black at the swordsman hips) of what you are talking about?

2) are you aware of this panel too anyway?

* Ryo was casually walking to the Flower capital with no one present and no fight that had just happened.

The nonsense Is trying to use and argument that has no bearing in the manga. So:

1) can you present another case in the whole manga (sword/blade being black at the swordsman hips) of what you are talking about?

2) are you aware of this panel too anyway?

* Ryo was casually walking to the Flower capital with no one present and no fight that had just happened.

Sure, the moron who made this post and has commented under this, made a comparison saying gb's blade looks exactly like the only other black blades we've seen:

This was clearly done in order to show that the way it's displayed and presented is a 1:1 match, further bolstering the idea that this is a black blade.

Yet, in the image YOU show of greenbull "casually walking to the flower capital" and I wonder why he's doing that? oh yeah? to fight the straw-hat alliance while they're recovering from battle:

Does NOT "exactly look like the other black blade we have seen" but the reason you're using this panel, is to show that the blade is black when he's not going into battle, yet this garbled dog shit imagery in the panel looks nothing like a black blade would, if we use OP's own fucking argument

The funny thing is in an interview it talks about oda's assistants taking care of background stuff like buildings etc, whereas oda works on the details on the characters, and this dude barely even tried to distinguish it in the same manner in this panel your using, compared to the panel where it could be argued gb is just using armament haki.
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At this point the argument that to make a black blade, it's like mangekyo sharingan where you have to kill your best friend

And GB did this in his lovers suicide backstory, Mihawk did it when his marine best friend betrayed him

And Zoro has to betray luffy to make a black blade

Is a better argument then the dogshit ones you guys come up with, regardless if Aramaki has a black blade or not.
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Lord Jesus, never let my brain become as defective as this, in Christ’s name I pray, amen

You have to pray like a retard to cope from the fact that you have no counter point to my argument

 

[Dragon777]

Sure, the moron who made this post and has commented under this, made a comparison saying gb's blade looks exactly like the only other black blades we've seen:

This was clearly done in order to show that the way it's displayed and presented is a 1:1 match, further bolstering the idea that this is a black blade.

Yet, in the image YOU show of greenbull "casually walking to the flower capital" and I wonder why he's doing that? oh yeah? to fight the straw-hat alliance while they're recovering from battle:

Does NOT "exactly look like the other black blade we have seen" but the reason you're using this panel, is to show that the blade is black when he's not going into battle, yet this garbled dog shit imagery in the panel looks nothing like a black blade would, if we use OP's own fucking argument

The funny thing is in an interview it talks about oda's assistants taking care of background stuff like buildings etc, whereas oda works on the details on the characters, and this dude barely even tried to distinguish it in the same manner in this panel your using, compared to the panel where it could be argued gb is just using armament haki.
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At this point the argument that to make a black blade, it's like mangekyo sharingan where you have to kill your best friend

And GB did this in his lovers suicide backstory, Mihawk did it when his marine best friend betrayed him

And Zoro has to betray luffy to make a black blade

Is a better argument then the dogshit ones you guys come up with, regardless if Aramaki has a black blade or not.
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You have to pray like a retard to cope from the fact that you have no counter point to my argument

Ok, so:

1) you came up with an headcanon of something that had never happened in the manga;

2) didn't find any other situation to back up It. Not even once in almost 1200 chapters;

3) after we pointed out there was anyway another panel of Aramaki walking to the flower capital without any fight that had just happened, you simply...tried to cancel that out.

Still, you tried insult others.

Well, good job lol.

 

[vikas]

Fuck Mihawk tbh but saying Garp has Pirate King level portrayal but Rayleigh doesn't is just pathetic dishonesty.

Garp himself puts Rayleigh on Pirate King level and Blackbeard who was laughing in Garps face was shitting his pants against Rayleigh.

BB is just a fan.... He was shitting from happiness

 

[nik87]

Greenbull's sword is a black blade and anyone saying otherwise should be ignored for being disengenuous. The argument that "it's not a black blade because it wasn't directly stated" falls flat on it's face because the sole reason it wasn't stated to be one is due to the fact that Aramaki didn't use it. Oda used his introduction to show off his devil fruit abilities, not his martial prowess.

The colored version pretty much sets this in stone. Unless Oda decides to retcon it later on in a cover page, as of now it's a black blade.

You know what's funny?
If it turns out that GreenBulls weapon is not a black blade despite looking like one.
If anyone thinks Oda accidentally revealed it like that long before it is even used, they are not familiar with Oda the master baiter.

 

[Dragon777]

You know what's funny?
If it turns out that GreenBulls weapon is not a black blade despite looking like one.
If anyone thinks Oda accidentally revealed it like that long before it is even used, they are not familiar with Oda the master baiter.

Tbh It would be pretty funny even It It's revealed to be one.
All the gymnastic we saw here and in the other topics about someting that looks exactly like a BB would be even more increbile.

Both cases will be funny for their own reasons.

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

The three agendas that are super obviously destined to fail:

1 - Shanks downplay
2 - Shiryu > Kuzan
3 - GB no black blade

Like if you have any of these wtf are you doing, are you knowingly trying to look bad in the future?

 

[Mr. Anderson]

Fuck Mihawk tbh but saying Garp has Pirate King level portrayal but Rayleigh doesn't is just pathetic dishonesty.

Garp himself puts Rayleigh on Pirate King level and Blackbeard who was laughing in Garps face was shitting his pants against Rayleigh.

Hey Shishio!

Then I guess BB is above Pirate King level. According to Rayleigh, he wouldnt have won a fight against Blackbeard these days. BB doesn't take risks fighting formidable opponents unless it aligns with his goals, so he was shook when Silvers arrived and fell for his bluff. However, the truth is, Rayleigh knew he would have lost the encounter. BB is too powerful for him. Ray is not PK level.
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You know what's funny?
If it turns out that GreenBulls weapon is not a black blade despite looking like one.
If anyone thinks Oda accidentally revealed it like that long before it is even used, they are not familiar with Oda the master baiter.

I'm fully expecting Oda to subvert expectations and pull some nonesense.


But as of right now, it looks like a black blade, smells like a black blade, so it is that for the time being. Not like this can be used for powerscaling purposes because his swordsmanship feats are non existant. Him having a black blade hurts no agendas as of yet. Only time will tell.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

"For one to believe he was actively coating a non-black blade in Haki, one would have to believe that Oda chose to have Ryokugyu coat a sword hanging from his hip in Haki for no other reason than to simply confuse readers. Which obviously makes not one ounce of sense."

No, one does NOT have to believe that shit, you can coat a blade in-case you need to use it, just because you didn't use it doesn't mean you couldn't have. He was literally heading into a confrontation.

That's like saying if someone has a gun strapped to their waist, and uses their df instead, it must not be loaded with any bullets, because he didn't use it, and would only have loaded it with bullets if he was 100% going to use the gun. What kind of dumbass logic is this.

If there was a situation in which he had to have used his sword, and he wasn't applying haki to it, he would have to waste time applying haki it, instead of having it already coated.

Damn man I guess vergo should have been continually turning on and off his full body armament, to when he ACSHULLY needed it, instead of having an active enhanced defence throughout the fight.

Note: I don't even mind GB having a black blade, but the logic presented 99% of the time that I've seen is complete and utter nonsense.

Bro wasn’t even fighting anyone when his blade was black… like there wasn’t any enemies nearby. Bro was just walking.

 

[Mr. Anderson]

Bcs swordsmen can end fights without damaging the area buddy
It s a way better alternative than using a giant tree lol

The reason he doesn't use it is because Oda is keeping his swordsmanship hidden until it matters to the story.

Its the same reason he made it look like Kaido didnt use his hybrid form against Oden, all so he could hide it's design until the rooftop battle.

If you're trying to come up with a logical reason as to why he didn't use his black blade, you won't find. This is just how the author writes when he wants to hide abilities.

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

The three agendas that are super obviously destined to fail:

1 - Shanks downplay
2 - Shiryu > Kuzan
3 - GB no black blade

Like if you have any of these wtf are you doing, are you knowingly trying to look bad in the future?

You speak like you forgot these people believed in ZKK and ZKK 2, when Zoro was meant to fight Kizaru