Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1149 Spoilers Discussion

[Shishsi]

https://x.com/thewillofmarco/status/1925499307299676261?s=46

 

[Kōri no kokyū]

+ oden

I wonder why the exception.

 

[Unleashed Truth]

Isn't it intriguing that in one of the most obvious cases of CoC use, the leakers left it ambiguous whether it was or not? What's this fear?

 

[soheilhazrat]

This never happened my dude.

Rayl and gaban stood above others in Roger pirates

 

[Sentinel]

I'd have feel for Oden's tragedy if at least people called him out on his stupidity instead of worshipping him nonetheless

It is especially funny when you consider the fact how enraged Luffy and Co were for Orochi... taking his chance and using the momentum. How could he be blamed for Lolden acting like a complete retard? Less evil villains would use this chance, let alone Orochi lmao.

 

[comrade]

It's like a catalog Oda can pick from in order to put together his different top tiers.
I've said it before but base Kaido was already a high ceiling for a guy like Gaban as he's physically (much) stronger and faster, while he already had the basic top tier haki set down aswell.
His blunt force AP was just shit, that's where Gaban has him. But Kaido with an Axe would have ended the story anyway, so

Kaido with a club would be at his best. Onis are renowned for hitting hard with a club and Kaido's fighting style is optimized for it.

 

[Elder Lee Hung]

At least they are easily comparable.

I'll say it again, there is no difference between Admirals and Yonko. All of them are at the pinnacle of strength when it comes to top tiers.

The good thing is that it's confirmed Gaban isn't just comparable to Rayleigh or Yonko based on reputation but it's also due to his own strength.
Having FS and ACoC definitely ain't a joke.
So Sanji - and the Admiral fighting him - won't be dragged down by clowns when they can no longer argue Sanji's ceiling is >= YC1.

I love how this entire fandom has collectively gaslit itself into believing the prime Roger Pirates were just trolling the rookie Whitebeard Pirates instead of both sides being equally serious which is what we were shown


The truth is just that top tier pirates and YC1-2 level fighters are close in strength (<<<<Admirals)

We’ve seen this time and time again.

Kaido vs YC2 Oden

Kaido vs his rival Hanafuda who was killed by Ace

Big Mom ran from Marco

Saint Shanks and Beckman are rivals

Roger was equal to his own wings

Pirates are just trash, the Admirals are the goats of this manga.

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

Ngl i'm enjoying the sudden Oden's bashing in the thread right now

This bum been leeching on Kaido PTSDs for far too long
the least impressive admiral is > Oden by portrayal Wano saijo portrayal

 

[Topi Jerami]

Neither is ray or mihawk or garp or even BIG MOM
Ray mihawk garp would kill kaido

he is obviously thinking about captains + oden

Woden > Ray
Woden > Garp
That's according to Kaido.

And he never met Mihawk, because he is irrelevant in the story. Nobody in Country of Swordsmen acknowledge the WSS

 

[soheilhazrat]

I wonder why the exception.

Because we are in wano and wano needs to wank someone in its theme
Why would wano war arc have ray mihawk garp gaban wank?

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Olmo says the Roger m3 stood shoulder to shoulder
Kaido put oden on the same pedestal as wb Roger rocks shanks

Worstgen takes 1 as gospel and the other as nonsense

Difference is one is a direct power statement about the Roger pirates and the other is just a list of people Kaido fought he believes are worthy to fight him.

 

[Julius]

So Sommers still fought back

Yeah he HKs are all stronger than the YC we have seen

Gunko negged Jinbe and Co for a reason

 

[Kōri no kokyū]

Rayl and gaban stood above others in Roger pirates

Oden was never an official member of Roger pirates. He only came for Final voyage and ponelglyph collection.
Do you ever see them they are stronger than Oden or something?

 

[Hiragaro]

Personally don't really mind it.
Got an FS reveal outta Gaban coz of it and also a bit more exposition into his character.
Curious about the reaction Redon, wrote about in his summary.
Also we kinda already know how strong Gaban is so it's fine. He was never really gonna be allowed to solo the Holy Knights even if he's clearly able to so. Moreover Imu is here now and has to be given time to flex so taking Gaban out the picture makes sense. Also him falling off the tree I think could potentially lead to him meeting the M3 and Loki down in the underworld and traning for M3 with regards to how to hurt immortals.

The FS reveal can be done with literally anything - using cheap way outs like this cuz you can’t handle your own story decisions right is just stupid. Oda does it all the time.

Ofc he is gonna fall into the M3, but the training part ain’t happening, they got a few seconds at most to get up there.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Oden was never an official member of Roger pirates. He only came for Final voyage and ponelglyph collection.
Do you ever see them they are stronger than Oden or something?

He was literally introduced as a Roger Pirates first before anything else lmao

 

[Sentinel]

Those Haki trails are way too thick. Been thinking about Katakuri having aCoC as well.

Dude is so insane

It's crazy that Katakuri's haki trails are actually larger than Zoro's KoH.

If you think about it, Zoro vs Katakuri might be a legit match-up in the future. After all, Zoro already defeated Luffy's leftover (Lucci, a pre timeskip antagonist who was defeated by Yonko Luffy in the same arc), so what's new to that?

 

[soheilhazrat]

Oden was never an official member of Roger pirates. He only came for Final voyage and ponelglyph collection.
Do you ever see them they are stronger than Oden or something?

They were pretty confident they can take oden out as well lol

No advcoc oden tho im not counting that but its really not that hard to understand
Gaban and Ray were hyped up to roger

 

[Tyki_Mikk]

LOL
"Nami: Yeah. He was overwhelming Luffy and Zoro! He's the father of Colon who was at the school!

"Jinbei: Oh, he's the "Left Hand of the Pirate King" who stood shoulder to shoulder* with Rayleigh!"

 

[Kōri no kokyū]

Because we are in wano and wano needs to wank someone in its theme
Why would wano war arc have ray mihawk garp gaban wank?

Because their age doesn't allign.
Mihawk was too young. Shanks later on clashed with kaidou during marineford.
Garp was only interested in Roger , we have no recorded battle of WB vs Garp. Only shiki cuz he infiltrated the base.

 

[Dragon777]

Isn't it intriguing that in one of the most obvious cases of CoC use, the leakers left it ambiguous whether it was or not? What's this fear?

Agenda mainly. They know that until it is stated, someone will anyway try to say otherwise in front of it. And maybe, for some twitter providers, their own agenda.