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You are wrong.

Ryu is Wano term for CoA haki. Hyou explained that when he was teaching Luffy how to use CoA haki the way Rayleigh showed him.





Ryuo means flowing cherry blossom.

Wano doesn't have a term for CoC haki. Some people call it Oden's special trick.


Again, Oden's father explained how enma works. It only forces the user to release more ryuo or CoA haki then they wishes.


Mastering enma has nothing to do with CoC. It's all about proving to enma you are capable and willing to use overwhelming haki even if it puts your life at risk.

This is one of the most misunderstood scenes in the entire manga.


Some still believe the scene was telling us Oden always use that amount (overwhelming) of haki. That is wrong. The scene explains Oden can use that amount of haki with enma easily. Not he always used that amount of haki. That can be easily determined by the lack of flames we see from Oden when using enma. Flames represent overwhelming haki. For Zoro to master enma he had to prove he could also use that amount of haki. That explains why Zoro doesn't have to use that amount of haki all the time.

With that explain let's go back and look at the scene again.


As we can see from the scene, up until then Zoro wasn't releasing overwhelming CoA haki. It was all about balance to him. He was releasing a lot of haki but not too much. Once he realized he wasn't releasing enough haki, he released all of his haki. He didn't just release and flow that amount of haki into enma, he did that with all his swords since he likes to keep the power between all three swords equal. While he did that he subconsciously released and flowed ACoC haki into all of his swords.

Enma doesn't effect Zoro other swords. If it did we would have seen his other swords affected by him losing control of enma.

Here Zoro is using ACoC haki with just the demon splitter.
Ryou is flow

"flowing cherry blossom"

Normal people can use coa and flow it to use acoa.

People with coc can flow it and get acoc.

But both are still ryou application. Because both are based on flow.


The thing that wano people call magic trick is merely the coc blast wave that knocks people out. That alone.

But acoc is using coc and flowing it into offensive and defensive weapons. So they would still call it ryou. That's why Kaido says "Are they using Oden's Ryou too?" when he got attacked by scabbards. He thought they were using what oden did to scar him. Which was acoc. But he used the term Ryou for it too. Meaning acoc is also Ryou in wano.
 
So....why this was never mentioned
Scopper's aging?
If Oda did then it wouldn't mean much in the way of speculation would it?
We know from Lewis Arnot that travellers shouldn't stay long on Elbaf for some reason and then we get Gaban mistaking 10 years for 4 years this chapter and it ain't like it was a random topic as well, it was with regard to when his captain died so does it not make sense to be skeptical about the way time flows on Elbaf?
 
Yes a man heralded as Rays equal and on par with Roger who has ACoC, Future Sight, and a mastery of CoC beyond the yonko… is low top tier
I'm hoping for something a little more dramatic, involving him having to hit Nami on Imu's orders or something. Maybe even fight Zoro briefly and Zoro calling Sanji by his name for the first time ever to try to "wake him up".
I think after egghead any moment where he doesnt accomplish what other think its impossible will be rather flacid
 
How would a CoC even be known when there's no one around to knock out. Regardless of even if Zoro had used ACoC unconsciously, it makes no sense for Kaido not to bring that up in their convo
Brother, kaido DID bring it up.

He asked zoro is he used coc.

This is not rocket science. If zoro used an attack, and right after, kaido asked "did you use x too?", it means zoro just used x in the attack that he just did. The x in this case being coc. And the only way to use coc in an attack is by coating it on a weapon. ie acoc.
 
This chapter basically proves that Zoro was leaking HUGE CoC the entire time without him realising. So it's 99% confirmed Zoro used ACoC on Lucci.

Damn, all the celebration of "base Zoro low diffed Lucci", only to end up with this realisation after a few months in another arc.
They still can’t provide an explanation on why Zoro held back vs Lucci because it doesn’t make narrative sense. One of them told me “he wanted to imitate Mihawk” lmfao
 
This chapter basically proves that Zoro was leaking HUGE CoC the entire time without him realising. So it's 99% confirmed Zoro used ACoC on Lucci.

Damn, all the celebration of "base Zoro low diffed Lucci", only to end up with this realisation after a few months in another arc.
I mean at least zoro fans beat the asthmatic allegations, he was legit being strained by all the adCoC use
 
I lmao if some Zoro or luffy fans think this will be some big power up .
It just a easy way for them to get over a hax and get better control .
Oda will draw it the same fucking way like other haki just look at gaban attacks ( which people debated over )
It really is a what the fuck ever thing .
 
This chapter basically proves that Zoro was leaking HUGE CoC the entire time without him realising. So it's 99% confirmed Zoro used ACoC on Lucci.

Damn, all the celebration of "base Zoro low diffed Lucci", only to end up with this realisation after a few months in another arc.
adcoc attack from wano zoro:
Ancient zoan + lunarian = loses wing
adcoc attack from egghead zoro:
"STANDING HERE I REALIZE"
Wucci @Veku
 
The new Zoro cope is reaching rooftop level.

People are trying to claim every single time Zoro fight with enma he's using CoC haki. That is incorrect.

Leaking CoC.


Not leaking CoC.


See the difference.

Awakening Lucci couldn't overpower or dominate base two swords Zoro.

It's not that Zoro can't control CoC. He just thinks he's using CoA when in reality he's using CoC.

People should be concerned with the fact Zoro's leaking CoC forced a Gorosei to block.


:finally:



Since we going back to every single time we see black lightning CoC/ACoC is being used. That means Luffy used ACoC against Kizaru and Lucci.


Was Lucci leaking CoC against Luffy? Was Luffy CoC matched by Lucci's CoC?
:choppawhat:

Lucci didn't think Luffy was worthy of being a Yonko after their clash. Gaban to speak to Luffy about his CoC haki.

Dang.
:shocked:
 
This chapter basically proves that Zoro was leaking HUGE CoC the entire time without him realising. So it's 99% confirmed Zoro used ACoC on Lucci.

Damn, all the celebration of "base Zoro low diffed Lucci", only to end up with this realisation after a few months in another arc.
Basic coc
This ch proved zoro didnt used acoc vs kaido
 
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