Powers & Abilities So it is no problem for these characters to have CoC, but for some reason it is a problem for these guys

[Max]

Zoro and Sanji were doing fuck all in the east blue before they met Luffy, with dreams that don't really involve conquering any countries or even challenging the government/Yonko even. There's no real reason for them to have it other then the fact that they have to become top tiers in their early 20s while you have guys training for decades.

What was Rayleigh doing before meeting Roger?

translation, he has no ambition of conquering anything

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Zoro having kings Haki would be reasonable if he wanted to take Mihawks castle,his island, his baboons and kill/imprison Mihawk, just like Doffy did to King RIku. That is the "qualities of a king"

Not fearing death would maybe be relevant if this was "soldiers haki". How is Zoro being willing to die any different from a soldier in Alabasta being willing to die in a war? How is it any different from Bellmere being willing to die?

I don't think you understand what CoC is.

 

[HA001]

Any woman in danger around him he’ll protect using his strength. So by your logic he’s worthy

Like stussy right
He's a pussy when stronger people are there

 

[Ssg super suit coby]

The dumbest post ever stated.

It makes sense of the above having coc becuase their goals are all power oriented. They literally have to grind there way to the top. Having emotions or even being suicidal doesn't take away from it since coc users value certain things above their own lives. It's why at this time non of the admirals were shown with coc except maybe kuzan.

SANJI DOES NOT FIT THIS CRITERIA. Honestly not even blackbeard fit this criteria

 

[Kiiro]

Why do you need them to have CoC? Just why?

Sanji has his dna genes which already makes him go from 60 to 100 in power. Why does he need CoC? Just why? It really wont give him more power or aura.

The same for the Admirals, they are DF monsters, that might have CoA and CoO in their advanced forms.. why give them CoC? You can say Akainu does deserve it, because he is the leader, and maybe Aokiji, but the rest are mere subordinates and thinks as such.

 

[Dragon777]

It's not an "issue" for them to have it, it's just that they simply do not have it, they have had ample opportunities to show it, far more than most confirmed CoC users and still not a shred of evidence supports it, no amount of cope will change that.

"Not a shred" being one explicit confirmation + various pretty clear hints, but ok.

In the end, we are going to see It.

 

[Max]

Why do you need them to have CoC? Just why?

Sanji has his dna genes which already makes him go from 60 to 100 in power. Why does he need CoC? Just why? It really wont give him more power or aura.

The same for the Admirals, they are DF monsters, that might have CoA and CoO in their advanced forms.. why give them CoC? You can say Akainu does deserve it, because he is the leader, and maybe Aokiji, but the rest are mere subordinates and thinks as such.

You think CoC wouldn't give him more power? And you don't understand why he'd need it, despite what we learned in last chapter?

I've read a lot of weird takes in the last couple days.

 

[Dragon777]

You can say Akainu does deserve it, because he is the leader, and maybe Aokiji, but the rest are mere subordinates and thinks as such.

Joking or serious?

Admirals are BY FAR the most autonomous people we have seen: they refuses to obey or flat out betray if they felt their Justice demans It.

They are "mere subordinates" at all lol.

The same cannot be said for others CoC users, CDs first and foremost being literal slaves of Imu without a single original thought.

 

[SkySanji]

"Not a shred" being one explicit confirmation + various pretty clear hints, but ok.

Which are...?

 

[Dragon777]

Which are...?

Aokiji vs Garp

Koby's HI + being Garp's disciple with the same style as him

Fuji being part of a group with Simply a falt 100% rate of CoC users.

 

[SkySanji]

Aokiji vs Garp

Koby's HI + being Garp's disciple with the same style as him

Fuji being part of a group with Simply a falt 100% rate of CoC users.

So literally nothing...

 

[Dragon777]

So literally nothing...

So you decided to ignote every one of them, yes.

Ready to bet on this anytime btw.
Fuji in particular.

 

[SkySanji]

So you decided to ignote every one of them, yes.

Ready to bet on this anytime btw.
Fuji in particular.

I ignored nothing, you just provided nothing except random headcanon and assumptions, those don't need refuting.

Fujitora is the most likely out of all Admirals, but he still has no chance.

 

[Dragon777]

I ignored nothing, you just provided nothing except random headcanon and assumptions, those don't need refuting.

Fujitora is the most likely out of all Admirals, but he still has no chance.

I have literally posted them, you Just ignored them all lol.

Ok, then let's bet.

 

[SkySanji]

I literally posted them, you Just ignored them all lol.

Ok, then let's bet.

you just provided nothing except random headcanon and assumptions

 

[Dragon777]

...

And again, answering at nothing on them.

But It's fine; let's bet then.

 

[SkySanji]

And again, answering at nothing on them.

But It's fine; let's bet then.

Because there's nothing to refute, your headcanons are meaningless, not legitimate arguments.

 

[Paragorn]

I Understand people's concern on Admirals having CoC. Think about it:

Himkainu with ACoC and Magma

Kuzan with CoC, Prime Garpl lvl haki and Logia

Aramaki with CoC, Black Blade and Logia

Fuji with CoC, Supreme blade and Gravity Fruit

Damn, Admirals would be too broken with busted DFs + CoC...

 

[Dragon777]

Because there's nothing to refute, your headcanons are meaningless, not legitimate arguments.

Calling facts headconons won't do anything

But anyway, for the fourth time in a row, let's bet then.

 

[SkySanji]

Calling facts headconons won't do anything

But anyway, for the fourth time in a row, let's bet then.

Eight hundred chapters since the first Admiral had a fight, no CoC shown by any of them whatsoever, Oda knows exactly what he is doing, CoC is reserved for the strongest, not the Gorosei's slaves.

 

[Dragon777]

Eight hundred chapters since the first Admiral had a fight, no CoC shown by any of them whatsoever, Oda knows exactly what he is doing, CoC is reserved for the strongest, not the Gorosei's slaves.

Let's bet then