Le Fishe Thread Doffy vs Fujitora

[ZenZu]

I thought Vergo had better striking strength and hardening than Big Mom, why would Cracker be an issue for him?

Because even G4 Boundman had that striking strength but it still wasn't enough. Cracker is simply that good with his biscuit formations.

 

[MarineHQ]

Agreed. Cracker is too much of a mismatch for Vergo.

Vergo is way closer to Doffy than people believe though. Doffy can go past the wall that is Cracker through his unique skill set, but ignore Parasito for arguments sake and Vergo is giving Doffy a serious run for his money.

A personal dope fanfic fight would be Vergo vs Killer. I think that could be highly entertaining.

Sure. Can you prove that he can beat a singular biscuit soldier though?

I can't exactly prove it. I'm not convinced Vergo can produce Boundman AP. I see some here are convinced he can. Oni Take is strong as shit sure, but that's why I said Vergo meets his match with Cracker because Boundman AP is required to force him out of his main biscuit.

That isn't required to beat Jack down.

 

[mly90]

The pillow Zenzu sleeps with every night

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Vergo is way closer to Doffy than people believe though. Doffy can go past the wall that is Cracker through his unique skill set, but ignore Parasito for arguments sake and Vergo is giving Doffy a serious run for his money.

A personal dope fanfic fight would be Vergo vs Killer. I think that could be highly entertaining.

I can't exactly prove it. I'm not convinced Vergo can produce Boundman AP. I see some here are convinced he can. Oni Take is strong as shit sure, but that's why I said Vergo meets his match with Cracker because Boundman AP is required to force him out of his main biscuit.

That isn't required to beat Jack down.

Are you certain? The Dukes couldn't get even close to putting Jack down in 5 whole days where they both got 12 hours of rest in each day.

Because even G4 Boundman had that striking strength but it still wasn't enough. Cracker is simply that good with his biscuit formations.

Why not blow them up with his staff like he tried against Smoker?
Or just get to Cracker before he can form more biscuits?
Not sure what's stopping him since he's supposedly Commander level. Weird that he'd lose to one of the weakest Commanders

 

[ZenZu]

The pillow Zenzu sleeps with every night

Yooo how did you manage to find a pic of MZTS having his nightly Vergo nightmare??

 

[MarineHQ]

Oda robbed the fandom not giving us G2/G3 Luffy vs Vergo. We would've had Vergo bullying him in an Armament and speed contest.

It would've been a mini Katakuri fight where Luffy would've realised how much he needs to train his "base".

 

[Blax Blah]

I want a penguin pillow

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Oda robbed the fandom not giving us G2/G3 Luffy vs Vergo. We would've had Vergo bullying him in an Armament and speed contest.

It would've been a mini Katakuri fight where Luffy would've realised how much he needs to train his "base".

Why didn't he bully Smoker as well then?

 

[ZenZu]

Oda robbed the fandom not giving us G2/G3 Luffy vs Vergo. We would've had Vergo bullying him in an Armament and speed contest.

It would've been a mini Katakuri fight where Luffy would've realised how much he needs to train his "base".

There's a reason Oda avoided having Luffy confront Vergo at all cost and simply had Law with his broken hax deal with him. Oda did not want to reveal G4 till Dressrosa against Doflamingo, Vergo wasn't a high profile opponent.

 

[Steven]

The pillow Zenzu sleeps with every night

Lol,ZenZu getting trashed once again

Poor guy farming Ls left and right

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Lol,ZenZu getting trashed once again

Poor guy farming Ls left and right

He's still avoiding my questions on whether or not Vergo could break Jinbe's Armament or beat a single biscuit soldier
Which is weird since I thought he has the best hardening and physical strength in the verse.

 

[ZenZu]

Lol,ZenZu getting trashed once again

Poor guy farming Ls left and right

Says the guy who created a Vergo thread in 2025

How much does he scare you?

 

[mly90]

Lol,ZenZu getting trashed once again

Poor guy farming Ls left and right

Nah i'm just joking around nothing serious vergo is goated but they take wank too far sometimes

 

[MarineHQ]

There's a reason Oda avoided having Luffy confront Vergo at all cost and simply had Law with his broken hax deal with him. Oda did not want to reveal G4 till Dressrosa against Doflamingo, Vergo wasn't a high profile opponent.

Shocks me how this goes over the fandoms head. Vergo was the secret shiny badass arc villain. A fighter to the core, but Luffy did not encounter him in a fight like at all?

The same Luffy that an arc later defeated Law’s boogeyman who haunted him since childhood?

Definitely something wrong here. Vergo and Luffy didn't meet for a reason. Oda wasn't confident that G2/G3 Luffy can pull it off, that's why he opted for a 2v1 where Law’s hax conveniently bypasses the super hardening.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Shocks me how this goes over the fandoms head. Vergo was the secret shiny badass arc villain. A fighter to the core, but Luffy did not encounter him in a fight like at all?

The same Luffy that an arc later defeated Law’s boogeyman who haunted him since childhood?

Definitely something wrong here. Vergo and Luffy didn't meet for a reason. Oda wasn't confident that G2/G3 Luffy can pull it off, that's why he opted for a 2v1 where Law’s hax conveniently bypasses the super hardening.

Wait are you trying to imply that Vergo's near Doffy in terms of strength?
That's not surprising given the other takes in this thread but holy fuck would it be hilarious

 

[SkySanji]

Low one tapped Vergo like he was garbage but G2/3 Luffy can't fodderize him

If Oda had made them fight, it would've ended with Luffy swiftly crushing him, then the decade+ of incessant Vergo wank derived from him beating fodder or weakened opponents would never exist

 

[mly90]

Fuji defeats doffy with less difficulty then the red puppy so if admiral stans have him high diffing him, lakazuki goes extreme diff with doffy

 

[comrade]

Cracker being too tricky to handle for Vergo due do his defense is fair. Jack however has no case as Perospero's peer

 

[MarineHQ]

Fuji defeats doffy with less difficulty then the red puppy so if admiral stans have him high diffing him, lakazuki goes extreme diff with doffy

Good point mentioning Fuji. Based on the embarrassment against Luffy at the end of Dressrosa we're not sure what happens when Super Hardening charges at him full force ngl.

 

[mly90]

Good point mentioning Fuji. Based on the embarrassment against Luffy at the end of Dressrosa we're not sure what happens when Super Hardening charges at him full force ngl.

Vergo gets gravity diffed while fuji casually has his favorite noodles